From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: Questionable aspects of QEMU Error's design
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:35:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <045198b9-29d8-231c-d35c-440723308003@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dyy9shs.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>
02.04.2020 11:55, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 07:11, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
>> <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>>> Somehow, in general, especially with long function names and long parameter lists I prefer
>>>
>>> ret = func(..);
>>> if (ret < 0) {
>>> return ret;
>>> }
>>
>> Personally I prefer the other approach -- this one has an extra line
>> in the source and
>> needs an extra local variable.
>
> Me too, except when func(...) is so long that
>
> if (func(...) < 0) {
>
> becomes illegible like
>
> if (func(... yadda, yadda,
> yadda, ...) < 0) {
>
> Then an extra variable can improve things.
>
>>> Are you sure that adding a lot of boolean functions is a good idea? I somehow feel better with more usual int functions with -errno on failure.
>>>
>>> Bool is a good return value for functions which are boolean by nature: checks, is something correspond to some criteria. But for reporting an error I'd prefer -errno.
>>
>> When would we want to return an errno? I thought the whole point of the
>> Error* was that that was where information about the error was returned.
>> If all your callsites are just going to do "if (ret < 0) { ... } then having
>> the functions pick an errno value to return is just extra work.
>
> 0/-1 vs. true/false is a matter of convention. Lacking convention, it's
> a matter of taste. >
> 0/-1 vs. 0/-errno depends on the function and its callers. When -errno
> enables callers to distinguish failures in a sane and simple way, use
> it. When -errno feels "natural", I'd say feel free to use it even when
> all existing callers only check < 0.
>
> When you return non-null/null or true/false on success/error, neglecting
> to document that in a function contract can perhaps be tolerated; you're
> using the return type the common, obvious way. But when you return 0/-1
> or 0/-errno, please spell it out. I've seen too many "Operation not
> permitted" that were actually -1 mistaken for -EPERM. Also too many
> functions that return -1 for some failures and -errno for others.
>
I just want to add one note:
OK, you like the pattern
if (func()) {
<handle error>
}
, I can live with it.
I believe, we have a lot of such patterns already in code.
Now, we are going to add a lot of functions, returning true on success and false on failure, so add a lot of patterns
if (!func()) {
<handle error>
}
---
After it, looking at something like
if (!func()) {} / if (func()) {}
I'll have to always jump to function definition, to check is it int or bool function, to understand what exactly is meant and is there a mistake in the code..
So, I'm afraid that such conversion will not help reviewing/understanding the code. I'd prefer to avoid using two opposite conventions in on project.
I can also imagine combining different function types (int/bool) in if conditions o_O, what will save us from it?
And don't forget about bool functions, which just check something, and false is not an error, but just negative answer on some question.
--
Best regards,
Vladimir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-02 14:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-01 9:02 Questionable aspects of QEMU Error's design Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 12:10 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 12:14 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 14:01 ` Alex Bennée
2020-04-01 15:49 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 15:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 12:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-01 12:47 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 15:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 20:15 ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-02 5:31 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 9:36 ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-04-02 14:11 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 14:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 15:28 ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-04-03 7:09 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 5:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 6:11 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 8:11 ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-02 8:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-02 8:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 14:35 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2020-04-02 15:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 17:17 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-03 7:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 18:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-02 8:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-02 9:19 ` Alex Bennée
2020-04-02 14:33 ` Eric Blake
2020-04-04 7:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-04 10:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-06 14:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-04-06 14:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-04-06 14:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-27 15:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-28 5:20 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-14 7:59 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-15 4:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-03 7:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-03 9:07 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-07-03 12:21 ` Markus Armbruster
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