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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: Questionable aspects of QEMU Error's design
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:35:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <045198b9-29d8-231c-d35c-440723308003@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dyy9shs.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

02.04.2020 11:55, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
> 
>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 07:11, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
>> <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>>> Somehow, in general, especially with long function names and long parameter lists I prefer
>>>
>>> ret = func(..);
>>> if (ret < 0) {
>>>       return ret;
>>> }
>>
>> Personally I prefer the other approach -- this one has an extra line
>> in the source and
>> needs an extra local variable.
> 
> Me too, except when func(...) is so long that
> 
>      if (func(...) < 0) {
> 
> becomes illegible like
> 
>      if (func(... yadda, yadda,
>               yadda, ...) < 0) {
> 
> Then an extra variable can improve things.
> 
>>> Are you sure that adding a lot of boolean functions is a good idea? I somehow feel better with more usual int functions with -errno on failure.
>>>
>>> Bool is a good return value for functions which are boolean by nature: checks, is something correspond to some criteria. But for reporting an error I'd prefer -errno.
>>
>> When would we want to return an errno? I thought the whole point of the
>> Error* was that that was where information about the error was returned.
>> If all your callsites are just going to do "if (ret < 0) { ... } then having
>> the functions pick an errno value to return is just extra work.
> 
> 0/-1 vs. true/false is a matter of convention.  Lacking convention, it's
> a matter of taste. >
> 0/-1 vs. 0/-errno depends on the function and its callers.  When -errno
> enables callers to distinguish failures in a sane and simple way, use
> it.  When -errno feels "natural", I'd say feel free to use it even when
> all existing callers only check < 0.
> 
> When you return non-null/null or true/false on success/error, neglecting
> to document that in a function contract can perhaps be tolerated; you're
> using the return type the common, obvious way.  But when you return 0/-1
> or 0/-errno, please spell it out.  I've seen too many "Operation not
> permitted" that were actually -1 mistaken for -EPERM.  Also too many
> functions that return -1 for some failures and -errno for others.
> 

I just want to add one note:

OK, you like the pattern

   if (func()) {
       <handle error>
   }

, I can live with it.

I believe, we have a lot of such patterns already in code.

Now, we are going to add a lot of functions, returning true on success and false on failure, so add a lot of patterns

   if (!func()) {
       <handle error>
   }

---

After it, looking at something like

   if (!func()) {} / if (func()) {}

I'll have to always jump to function definition, to check is it int or bool function, to understand what exactly is meant and is there a mistake in the code..
So, I'm afraid that such conversion will not help reviewing/understanding the code. I'd prefer to avoid using two opposite conventions in on project.

I can also imagine combining different function types (int/bool) in if conditions o_O, what will save us from it?

And don't forget about bool functions, which just check something, and false is not an error, but just negative answer on some question.

-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-02 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-01  9:02 Questionable aspects of QEMU Error's design Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 12:10 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 12:14   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 14:01   ` Alex Bennée
2020-04-01 15:49     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 15:05   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 12:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-01 12:47   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-01 15:34   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-01 20:15 ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-02  5:31   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02  9:36     ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-04-02 14:11       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02 14:34         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 15:28           ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-04-03  7:09             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02  5:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02  6:11     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-02  8:11       ` Peter Maydell
2020-04-02  8:49         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-02  8:55         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 14:35           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2020-04-02 15:06             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 17:17               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-04-03  7:48                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-02 18:57           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-02  8:47     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-02  9:19       ` Alex Bennée
2020-04-02 14:33     ` Eric Blake
2020-04-04  7:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-04 10:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-06 14:05     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-04-06 14:38       ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-04-06 14:10     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-04-27 15:36   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-04-28  5:20     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-14  7:59       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-05-15  4:28         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-03  7:38           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-03  9:07             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-07-03 12:21   ` Markus Armbruster

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