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From: Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>
To: "Alexey Kardashevskiy" <aik@amd.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Gupta Pankaj" <pankaj.gupta@amd.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>
Cc: <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Williams Dan J <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Peng Chao P <chao.p.peng@intel.com>,
	Gao Chao <chao.gao@intel.com>, Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@intel.com>,
	Li Xiaoyao <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/13] memory: Introduce generic state change parent class for RamDiscardManager
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 20:57:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04e6ce1f-1159-4bf3-b078-fd338a669647@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <402e0db2-b1af-4629-a651-79d71feffeec@amd.com>



On 4/9/2025 5:56 PM, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/4/25 17:49, Chenyi Qiang wrote:
>> RamDiscardManager is an interface used by virtio-mem to adjust VFIO
>> mappings in relation to VM page assignment. It manages the state of
>> populated and discard for the RAM. To accommodate future scnarios for
>> managing RAM states, such as private and shared states in confidential
>> VMs, the existing RamDiscardManager interface needs to be generalized.
>>
>> Introduce a parent class, GenericStateManager, to manage a pair of
> 
> "GenericState" is the same as "State" really. Call it RamStateManager.

OK to me.

> 
> 
> 
>> opposite states with RamDiscardManager as its child. The changes include
>> - Define a new abstract class GenericStateChange.
>> - Extract six callbacks into GenericStateChangeClass and allow the child
>>    classes to inherit them.
>> - Modify RamDiscardManager-related helpers to use GenericStateManager
>>    ones.
>> - Define a generic StatChangeListener to extract fields from
> 
> "e" missing in StateChangeListener.

Fixed. Thanks.

> 
>>    RamDiscardManager listener which allows future listeners to embed it
>>    and avoid duplication.
>> - Change the users of RamDiscardManager (virtio-mem, migration, etc.) to
>>    switch to use GenericStateChange helpers.
>>
>> It can provide a more flexible and resuable framework for RAM state
>> management, facilitating future enhancements and use cases.
> 
> I fail to see how new interface helps with this. RamDiscardManager
> manipulates populated/discarded. It would make sense may be if the new
> class had more bits per page, say private/shared/discarded but it does
> not. And PrivateSharedManager cannot coexist with RamDiscard. imho this
> is going in a wrong direction.

I think we have two questions here:

1. whether we should define an abstract parent class and distinguish the
RamDiscardManager and PrivateSharedManager?

I vote for this. First, After making the distinction, the
PrivateSharedManager won't go into the RamDiscardManager path which
PrivateSharedManager may have not supported yet. e.g. the migration
related path. In addtional, we can extend the PrivateSharedManager for
specific handling, e.g. the priority listener, state_change() callback.

2. How we should abstract the parent class?

I think this is the problem. My current implementation extracts all the
callbacks in RamDiscardManager into the parent class and call them
state_set and state_clear, which can only manage a pair of opposite
states. As you mentioned, there could be private/shared/discarded three
states in the future, which is not compatible with current design. Maybe
we can make the parent class more generic, e.g. only extract the
register/unregister_listener() into it.

> 
> 
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>
>> ---
>> Changes in v4:
>>      - Newly added.
>> ---
>>   hw/vfio/common.c        |  30 ++--
>>   hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c  |  95 ++++++------
>>   include/exec/memory.h   | 313 ++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
>>   migration/ram.c         |  16 +-
>>   system/memory.c         | 106 ++++++++------
>>   system/memory_mapping.c |   6 +-
>>   6 files changed, 310 insertions(+), 256 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/hw/vfio/common.c b/hw/vfio/common.c
>> index f7499a9b74..3172d877cc 100644
>> --- a/hw/vfio/common.c
>> +++ b/hw/vfio/common.c
>> @@ -335,9 +335,10 @@ out:
>>       rcu_read_unlock();
>>   }
>>   -static void vfio_ram_discard_notify_discard(RamDiscardListener *rdl,
>> +static void vfio_ram_discard_notify_discard(StateChangeListener *scl,
>>                                               MemoryRegionSection
>> *section)
>>   {
>> +    RamDiscardListener *rdl = container_of(scl, RamDiscardListener,
>> scl);
>>       VFIORamDiscardListener *vrdl = container_of(rdl,
>> VFIORamDiscardListener,
>>                                                   listener);
>>       VFIOContainerBase *bcontainer = vrdl->bcontainer;
>> @@ -353,9 +354,10 @@ static void
>> vfio_ram_discard_notify_discard(RamDiscardListener *rdl,
>>       }
>>   }
>>   -static int vfio_ram_discard_notify_populate(RamDiscardListener *rdl,
>> +static int vfio_ram_discard_notify_populate(StateChangeListener *scl,
>>                                               MemoryRegionSection
>> *section)
>>   {
>> +    RamDiscardListener *rdl = container_of(scl, RamDiscardListener,
>> scl);
>>       VFIORamDiscardListener *vrdl = container_of(rdl,
>> VFIORamDiscardListener,
>>                                                   listener);
> 
> VFIORamDiscardListener *vrdl = container_of(scl, VFIORamDiscardListener,
> listener.scl) and drop @ rdl? Thanks,

Modified. Thanks!

> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-09 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-07  7:49 [PATCH v4 00/13] Enable shared device assignment Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] memory: Export a helper to get intersection of a MemoryRegionSection with a given range Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  2:47   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  6:26     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  6:45       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  7:38         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-12  3:24   ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] memory: Change memory_region_set_ram_discard_manager() to return the result Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  9:53   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-04-08  0:50     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  5:35   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  5:52     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] memory: Unify the definiton of ReplayRamPopulate() and ReplayRamDiscard() Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  5:43   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09  6:56     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 12:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-27  2:13     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] memory: Introduce generic state change parent class for RamDiscardManager Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:56   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-09 12:57     ` Chenyi Qiang [this message]
2025-04-10  0:11       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  1:44         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-16  3:32           ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-17 23:10             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-18  3:49               ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:54             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-25 12:49     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-27  1:33       ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] memory: Introduce PrivateSharedManager Interface as child of GenericStateManager Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:56   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  3:47     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-25 12:57   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-27  1:40     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-29 10:01       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] vfio: Add the support for PrivateSharedManager Interface Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:58   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  5:53     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] ram-block-attribute: Introduce RamBlockAttribute to manage RAMBLock with guest_memfd Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-09  9:57   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-10  7:37     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  6:41   ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-09  7:55     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  8:18       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 10:37         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-12  8:07   ` Zhao Liu
2025-05-12  9:43     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-13  8:31       ` Zhao Liu
2025-05-14  1:39         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] ram-block-attribute: Introduce a callback to notify shared/private state changes Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] memory: Attach RamBlockAttribute to guest_memfd-backed RAMBlocks Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] memory: Change NotifyStateClear() definition to return the result Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-27  2:26   ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  2:38     ` Chao Gao
2025-05-09  8:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09  9:19         ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  8:22     ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-09 10:04       ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-12  7:54         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] KVM: Introduce CVMPrivateSharedListener for attribute changes during page conversions Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  9:03   ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-12  3:18     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] ram-block-attribute: Add priority listener support for PrivateSharedListener Chenyi Qiang
2025-05-09  9:23   ` Baolu Lu
2025-05-09  9:39     ` Chenyi Qiang
2025-04-07  7:49 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] RAMBlock: Make guest_memfd require coordinate discard Chenyi Qiang

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