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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] seabios: add serial console support
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 13:45:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06b3f67a-a3e8-021b-6b13-33062bd2d259@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160705100711.GJ6553@redhat.com>



On 05/07/2016 12:07, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> > What the final default behavior will be is not clear yet.  Not enabled?
>> > Enabled in case no VGA is present?  Enabled unconditionally (simliar to
>> > ovmf)?
> (Bitter) experiance in libvirt has shown us that magically enabling
> things based on whether or not some other feature is enabled leads
> to pain and suffering in the long term.
> 
> So from libvirt's POV, we would like an explicit command line flag
> to turn on/off seabios serial console support, with no dependancy
> on whether VGA is present or not.

With my other proposal, "-machine graphics=no -device sga" should do it.

However, for libvirt to do this, it should stop using "-nographic" to
disable all display backends, and instead use "-display none".  The
advantage is that neither "-display none" nor "-machine graphics=no" do
any magic redirection of the monitor and the serial ports to stdio.

"-display none" is supported since QEMU 1.0.  For old QEMU without
query-command-line-options it can be scraped from help text; for new
QEMU with query-command-line-options it can be treated as always there.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-05 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-04 20:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] seabios: add serial console support Gerd Hoffmann
2016-07-04 20:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] std: add cp437 to unicode map Gerd Hoffmann
2016-07-05 13:49   ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor
2016-07-04 20:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] kbd: make enqueue_key public, add ascii_to_keycode Gerd Hoffmann
2016-07-04 20:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] add serial console support Gerd Hoffmann
2016-07-05 14:30   ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor
2016-07-05 15:07     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-07-05 15:23       ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-07-05  8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] seabios: " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-07-05 10:00   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-07-05 10:07     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-07-05 11:45       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-07-05 11:59         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-07-05 11:15     ` Paolo Bonzini

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