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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Cc: "fam@euphon.net" <fam@euphon.net>,
	"kwolf@redhat.com" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Denis Lunev <den@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"jsnow@redhat.com" <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] block/backup: improve unallocated clusters skipping
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 14:53:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07f45d08-33dd-b49c-6a71-58fc84876697@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7783cb6f-4e71-c789-3105-4a6dc3b1533d@virtuozzo.com>


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On 09.08.19 14:47, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 09.08.2019 15:25, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 09.08.19 09:50, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> 07.08.2019 21:01, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> On 07.08.19 10:07, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>> Limit block_status querying to request bounds on write notifier to
>>>>> avoid extra seeking.
>>>>
>>>> I don’t understand this reasoning.  Checking whether something is
>>>> allocated for qcow2 should just mean an L2 cache lookup.  Which we have
>>>> to do anyway when we try to copy data off the source.
>>>
>>> But for raw it's seeking.
>>
>> (1) That’s a bug in block_status then, isn’t it?
>>
>> file-posix cannot determine the allocation status, or rather, everything
>> is allocated.  bdrv_co_block_status() should probably pass @want_zero on
>> to the driver’s implementation, and file-posix should just
>> unconditionally return DATA if it’s false.
>>
>> (2) Why would you even use sync=top for raw nodes?
>>
> 
> As I described in parallel letters, raw was bad example. NBD is good.

Does NBD support backing files?

> Anyway, now I'm refactoring cluster skipping more deeply for v2.
> 
> About top-mode: finally block-status should be used to improve other
> modes too. In virtuozzo we skip unallocated for full mode too, for example.

But this patch here is about sync=top.

Skipping is an optimization, the block_status querying here happens
because copying anything that isn’t allocated in the top layer would be
wrong.

Max

> Unfortunately, backup is most long-term thing to upstream for me..


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-09 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-07  8:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] backup improvements Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] block/backup: deal with zero detection Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] block/backup: refactor write_flags Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] block/io: handle alignment and max_transfer for copy_range Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07 17:28   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-09  7:50     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] block/backup: improve unallocated clusters skipping Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07 18:01   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-09  7:50     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-09  9:12       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-09 10:25         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-09 10:10       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-09 12:25       ` Max Reitz
2019-08-09 12:47         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-09 12:53           ` Max Reitz [this message]
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] block/backup: fix backup_cow_with_offload for last cluster Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07 18:05   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] block/backup: teach backup_cow_with_bounce_buffer to copy more at once Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07 18:25   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] block/backup: merge duplicated logic into backup_do_cow Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07 18:37   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-07  8:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] block/backup: backup_do_cow: use bdrv_dirty_bitmap_next_dirty_area Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-08-07 18:46   ` Max Reitz
2019-08-09  7:54     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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