From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@gmail.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
jiang.biao2@zte.com.cn, wei.w.wang@intel.com,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] migration: do not wait if no free thread
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:19:42 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <089249ff-7f39-44db-310d-ae9ba7912b33@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180613154314.GI2676@work-vm>
On 06/13/2018 11:43 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Peter Xu (peterx@redhat.com) wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:42:25AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/11/2018 03:39 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 05:55:09PM +0800, guangrong.xiao@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of putting the main thread to sleep state to wait for
>>>>> free compression thread, we can directly post it out as normal
>>>>> page that reduces the latency and uses CPUs more efficiently
>>>>
>>>> The feature looks good, though I'm not sure whether we should make a
>>>> capability flag for this feature since otherwise it'll be hard to
>>>> switch back to the old full-compression way no matter for what
>>>> reason. Would that be a problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We assume this optimization should always be optimistic for all cases,
>>> particularly, we introduced the statistics of compression, then the user
>>> should adjust its parameters based on those statistics if anything works
>>> worse.
>>
>> Ah, that'll be good.
>>
>>>
>>> Furthermore, we really need to improve this optimization if it hurts
>>> any case rather than leaving a option to the user. :)
>>
>> Yeah, even if we make it a parameter/capability we can still turn that
>> on by default in new versions but keep the old behavior in old
>> versions. :) The major difference is that, then we can still _have_ a
>> way to compress every page. I'm just thinking if we don't have a
>> switch for that then if someone wants to measure e.g. how a new
>> compression algo could help VM migration, then he/she won't be
>> possible to do that again since the numbers will be meaningless if
>> that bit is out of control on which page will be compressed.
>>
>> Though I don't know how much use it'll bring... But if that won't be
>> too hard, it still seems good. Not a strong opinion.
>
> I think that is needed; it might be that some users have really awful
> networking and need the compression; I'd expect that for people who turn
> on compression they really expect the slowdown because they need it for
> their network, so changing that is a bit odd.
People should make sure the system has enough CPU resource to do
compression as well, so the perfect usage is that the 'busy-rate'
is low enough i think.
However, it's not a big deal, i will introduce a parameter,
maybe, compress-wait-free-thread.
Thank you all, Dave and Peter! :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-14 3:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-04 9:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] migration: improve multithreads for compression and decompression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] migration: do not wait if no free thread guangrong.xiao
2018-06-11 7:39 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-12 2:42 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-12 3:15 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-13 15:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14 3:19 ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/12] migration: fix counting normal page for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 15:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14 3:32 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/12] migration: fix counting xbzrle cache_miss_rate guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 16:09 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-15 11:30 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/12] migration: introduce migration_update_rates guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 16:17 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14 3:35 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-15 11:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/12] migration: show the statistics of compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04 22:31 ` Eric Blake
2018-06-06 12:44 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-13 16:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14 6:48 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-16 19:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18 8:51 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/12] migration: do not detect zero page for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-19 7:30 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 9:12 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28 9:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-29 3:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 9:54 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-29 9:42 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-03 3:53 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-16 18:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18 8:46 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-22 16:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-23 7:12 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] migration: hold the lock only if it is really needed guangrong.xiao
2018-06-19 7:36 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 9:33 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 11:22 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-03 6:27 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-11 8:21 ` Peter Xu
2018-07-12 7:47 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-12 8:26 ` Peter Xu
2018-07-18 8:56 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-18 10:18 ` Peter Xu
2018-07-13 17:44 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/12] migration: do not flush_compressed_data at the end of each iteration guangrong.xiao
2018-07-13 18:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18 8:44 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] ring: introduce lockless ring buffer guangrong.xiao
2018-06-20 4:52 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 10:02 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28 11:55 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-29 3:55 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-03 15:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-20 5:55 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 14:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-20 12:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-29 7:30 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 13:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-03 7:31 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28 13:36 ` Jason Wang
2018-06-29 3:59 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 6:15 ` Jason Wang
2018-06-29 7:47 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 4:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-29 7:44 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] migration: introduce lockless multithreads model guangrong.xiao
2018-06-20 6:52 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 14:25 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-13 16:24 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18 7:12 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/12] migration: use lockless Multithread model for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/12] migration: use lockless Multithread model for decompression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-11 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] migration: improve multithreads for compression and decompression Peter Xu
2018-06-12 3:19 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-12 5:36 ` Peter Xu
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