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From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@gmail.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	jiang.biao2@zte.com.cn, wei.w.wang@intel.com,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] migration: do not wait if no free thread
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:19:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <089249ff-7f39-44db-310d-ae9ba7912b33@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180613154314.GI2676@work-vm>



On 06/13/2018 11:43 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Peter Xu (peterx@redhat.com) wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:42:25AM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/11/2018 03:39 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 05:55:09PM +0800, guangrong.xiao@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> From: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of putting the main thread to sleep state to wait for
>>>>> free compression thread, we can directly post it out as normal
>>>>> page that reduces the latency and uses CPUs more efficiently
>>>>
>>>> The feature looks good, though I'm not sure whether we should make a
>>>> capability flag for this feature since otherwise it'll be hard to
>>>> switch back to the old full-compression way no matter for what
>>>> reason.  Would that be a problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We assume this optimization should always be optimistic for all cases,
>>> particularly, we introduced the statistics of compression, then the user
>>> should adjust its parameters based on those statistics if anything works
>>> worse.
>>
>> Ah, that'll be good.
>>
>>>
>>> Furthermore, we really need to improve this optimization if it hurts
>>> any case rather than leaving a option to the user. :)
>>
>> Yeah, even if we make it a parameter/capability we can still turn that
>> on by default in new versions but keep the old behavior in old
>> versions. :) The major difference is that, then we can still _have_ a
>> way to compress every page. I'm just thinking if we don't have a
>> switch for that then if someone wants to measure e.g.  how a new
>> compression algo could help VM migration, then he/she won't be
>> possible to do that again since the numbers will be meaningless if
>> that bit is out of control on which page will be compressed.
>>
>> Though I don't know how much use it'll bring...  But if that won't be
>> too hard, it still seems good.  Not a strong opinion.
> 
> I think that is needed; it might be that some users have really awful
> networking and need the compression; I'd expect that for people who turn
> on compression they really expect the slowdown because they need it for
> their network, so changing that is a bit odd.

People should make sure the system has enough CPU resource to do
compression as well, so the perfect usage is that the 'busy-rate'
is low enough i think.

However, it's not a big deal, i will introduce a parameter,
maybe, compress-wait-free-thread.

Thank you all, Dave and Peter! :)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-14  3:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04  9:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] migration: improve multithreads for compression and decompression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/12] migration: do not wait if no free thread guangrong.xiao
2018-06-11  7:39   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-12  2:42     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-12  3:15       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-13 15:43         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  3:19           ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/12] migration: fix counting normal page for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 15:51   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  3:32     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/12] migration: fix counting xbzrle cache_miss_rate guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 16:09   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-15 11:30   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/12] migration: introduce migration_update_rates guangrong.xiao
2018-06-13 16:17   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  3:35     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-15 11:32     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/12] migration: show the statistics of compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04 22:31   ` Eric Blake
2018-06-06 12:44     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-13 16:25   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-14  6:48     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-16 19:01       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  8:51         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/12] migration: do not detect zero page for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-19  7:30   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  9:12     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28  9:36       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-29  3:50         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29  9:54         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-29  9:42       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-03  3:53         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-16 18:58           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  8:46             ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-22 16:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-23  7:12                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/12] migration: hold the lock only if it is really needed guangrong.xiao
2018-06-19  7:36   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  9:33     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 11:22       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-03  6:27         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-11  8:21       ` Peter Xu
2018-07-12  7:47         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-12  8:26           ` Peter Xu
2018-07-18  8:56             ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-18 10:18               ` Peter Xu
2018-07-13 17:44           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/12] migration: do not flush_compressed_data at the end of each iteration guangrong.xiao
2018-07-13 18:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  8:44     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/12] ring: introduce lockless ring buffer guangrong.xiao
2018-06-20  4:52   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 10:02     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28 11:55       ` Wei Wang
2018-06-29  3:55         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-03 15:55           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-06-20  5:55   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 14:00     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-20 12:38   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-29  7:30     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29 13:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-03  7:31         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-28 13:36   ` Jason Wang
2018-06-29  3:59     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29  6:15       ` Jason Wang
2018-06-29  7:47         ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-29  4:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-29  7:44       ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/12] migration: introduce lockless multithreads model guangrong.xiao
2018-06-20  6:52   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 14:25     ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-07-13 16:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-07-18  7:12       ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/12] migration: use lockless Multithread model for compression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-04  9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/12] migration: use lockless Multithread model for decompression guangrong.xiao
2018-06-11  8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] migration: improve multithreads for compression and decompression Peter Xu
2018-06-12  3:19   ` Xiao Guangrong
2018-06-12  5:36     ` Peter Xu

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