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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/79] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:38:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <09c404a5-6207-f019-d7da-edcf146f2899@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200224123342.14b67e6d@redhat.com>

On 2/24/20 12:33 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:45:11 +0100
> Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Igor,
>>
>> On 2/19/20 5:08 PM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>> [...]
>>> Series removes ad hoc RAM allocation API (memory_region_allocate_system_memory)
>>> and consolidates it around hostmem backend. It allows to
>>>    * resolve conflicts between global -mem-prealloc and hostmem's "policy" option
>>>      fixing premature allocation before binding policy is applied
>>>    * simplify complicated memory allocation routines which had to deal with 2 ways
>>>      to allocate RAM.
>>>    * it allows to reuse hostmem backends of a choice for main RAM without adding
>>>      extra CLI options to duplicate hostmem features.
>>>      Recent case was -mem-shared, to enable vhost-user on targets that don't
>>>      support hostmem backends [1] (ex: s390)
>>>    * move RAM allocation from individual boards into generic machine code and
>>>      provide them with prepared MemoryRegion.
>>>    * clean up deprecated NUMA features which were tied to the old API (see patches)
>>>       - "numa: remove deprecated -mem-path fallback to anonymous RAM"
>>>       - (POSTPONED, waiting on libvirt side) "forbid '-numa node,mem' for 5.0 and newer machine types"
>>>       - (POSTPONED) "numa: remove deprecated implicit RAM distribution between nodes"
>>>
>>> Conversion introduces a new machine.memory-backend property and wrapper code that
>>> aliases global -mem-path and -mem-alloc into automatically created hostmem
>>> backend properties (provided memory-backend was not set explicitly given by user).
>>> And then follows bulk of trivial patches that incrementally convert individual
>>> boards to using machine.memory-backend provided MemoryRegion.
>>>
>>> Board conversion typically involves:
>>>    * providing MachineClass::default_ram_size and MachineClass::default_ram_id
>>>      so generic code could create default backend if user didn't explicitly provide
>>>      memory-backend or -m options
>>>    * dropping memory_region_allocate_system_memory() call
>>>    * using convenience MachineState::ram MemoryRegion, which points to MemoryRegion
>>>      allocated by ram-memdev
>>> On top of that for some boards:
>>>    * added missing ram_size checks (typically it were boards with fixed ram size)
>>>    * ram_size fixups were replaced by checks and hard errors, forcing user to
>>>      provide correct "-m" values instead of ignoring it and continuing running.
>>>
>>> After all boards are converted the old API is removed and memory allocation
>>> routines are cleaned up.
>>
>> I wonder about the pre-QOM machines. As they don't call
>> memory_region_allocate_system_memory(), the conversion is not required?
>> (See for example pxa270_init).
> Since they weren't using memory_region_allocate_system_memory(), they are
> out of scope of this series.
> 
> As for the future, I'd only make boards that support user configurable
> ram size to accept "-m".

Good cleanup.

> 
> For fixed size boards -m/memdev is overkill and we need to decide what to do
> with them. I see following options (in order of my preference):
>    1. Non popular: error out if -m is specified (it used to work, but not
>       anymore when check is added, i.e similar to size checks
>       introduced in this series so users have to adapt their CLI).
>       It can still use automatically created memdev but I'd ditch it on
>       those boards and use plain memory_region_init_ram().
>       This is matches well SoCs that have embedded RAM and don't really
>       care about what user may specify with -m. It would simplify
>       simple boards.

LGTM.

> 
>    2. a path of least resistance: continue support -m and generalize
>       ram_size checks for such boards. This could use memdev since it
>       comes for free with -m support. I don't expect complications
>       with generalizing it (but one would only know for sure when
>       it's coded)
> 
> The next this I plan to do is to clean up ram_size global and
> hopefully get rid of MachineState:ram_size as well.
> 



      reply	other threads:[~2020-02-24 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-19 16:08 [PATCH v6 00/79] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 01/79] numa: remove deprecated -mem-path fallback to anonymous RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 02/79] machine: introduce memory-backend property Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 03/79] machine: alias -mem-path and -mem-prealloc into memory-foo backend Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 04/79] machine: introduce convenience MachineState::ram Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 05/79] initialize MachineState::ram in NUMA case Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 06/79] vl.c: move -m parsing after memory backends has been processed Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 07/79] vl.c: ensure that ram_size matches size of machine.memory-backend Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 08/79] alpha/dp264: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 09/79] arm/aspeed: actually check RAM size Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 10/79] arm/aspeed: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 11/79] arm/collie: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 12/79] arm/cubieboard: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 13/79] arm/digic_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 14/79] arm/highbank: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 15/79] arm/imx25_pdk: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 16/79] arm/imx25_pdk: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 17/79] arm/integratorcp: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 18/79] arm/kzm: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 19/79] arm/kzm: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 20/79] arm/mcimx6ul-evk: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 21/79] arm/mcimx7d-sabre: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 22/79] arm/mps2-tz: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 23/79] arm/mps2: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 24/79] arm/musicpal: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:08 ` [PATCH v6 25/79] arm/nseries: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 26/79] arm/omap_sx1: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 27/79] arm/palm: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 28/79] arm/sabrelite: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 29/79] arm/raspi: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 30/79] arm/sbsa-ref: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 31/79] arm/versatilepb: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 32/79] arm/vexpress: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 33/79] arm/virt: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 34/79] arm/xilinx_zynq: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 35/79] arm/xilinx_zynq: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 36/79] arm/xlnx-versal-virt: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 37/79] arm/xlnx-zcu102: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 38/79] s390x/s390-virtio-ccw: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 39/79] null-machine: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 40/79] cris/axis_dev88: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 41/79] hppa: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 42/79] x86/microvm: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 43/79] x86/pc: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 44/79] lm32/lm32_boards: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 45/79] lm32/milkymist: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 46/79] m68k/an5206: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 47/79] m68k/q800: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 48/79] m68k/mcf5208: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 49/79] m68k/next-cube: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 50/79] mips/boston: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 51/79] mips/mips_fulong2e: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 52/79] mips/mips_fulong2e: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 53/79] mips/mips_jazz: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 54/79] mips/mips_jazz: add max ram size check Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 55/79] mips/mips_malta: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 56/79] mips/mips_mipssim: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 57/79] mips/mips_r4k: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 58/79] ppc/e500: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 59/79] ppc/e500: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 60/79] ppc/mac_newworld: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 61/79] ppc/mac_oldworld: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 62/79] ppc/pnv: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 63/79] ppc/ppc405_boards: add RAM size checks Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 64/79] ppc/ppc405_boards: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 65/79] ppc/{ppc440_bamboo, sam460ex}: drop RAM size fixup Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 66/79] ppc/{ppc440_bamboo, sam460ex}: use memdev for RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 67/79] ppc/spapr: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 68/79] ppc/virtex_ml507: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 69/79] sparc/leon3: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 70/79] sparc/sun4m: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 71/79] sparc/niagara: " Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 72/79] remove no longer used memory_region_allocate_system_memory() Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 73/79] exec: cleanup qemu_minrampagesize()/qemu_maxrampagesize() Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 74/79] exec: drop bogus mem_path from qemu_ram_alloc_from_fd() Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 75/79] make mem_path local variable Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 76/79] hostmem: introduce "prealloc-threads" property Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 77/79] hostmem: fix strict bind policy Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 78/79] tests/numa-test: make top level args dynamic and g_autofree(cli) cleanups Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:09 ` [PATCH v6 79/79] tests:numa-test: use explicit memdev to specify node RAM Igor Mammedov
2020-02-19 16:58 ` [PATCH v6 00/79] refactor main RAM allocation to use hostmem backend no-reply
2020-02-24  8:45 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-02-24 11:33   ` Igor Mammedov
2020-02-24 11:38     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]

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