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From: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
To: Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
	Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	Tarun Gupta <targupta@nvidia.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] vfio/migration: Make VFIO migration non-experimental
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:21:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a6e8496-f3c8-567a-c886-b8ea604c799a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <976b7037-ee62-f86d-5772-6a2deca0816d@nvidia.com>

[ Cc: Shameer ]


>>> I see ON_OFF_AUTO_ON as a way to abort the machine startup while
>>> ON_OFF_AUTO_AUTO would let it run but block migration.
>>
>> Agreed.  There's a little bit of redundancy between the device-level
>> "enable-migration=on" option and the global "-only-migratable" option
>> relative to preventing machine startup, but it also doesn't make sense
>> to me if the device-level option let realize complete successfully if
>> the device doesn't support or fails migration setup.  So I think we'd
>> generally rely on using the -only-migratable option with the default
>> ON_OFF_AUTO_AUTO value, allow the ON_OFF_AUTO_ON value to enable
>> dis-recommended support, and live with the redundancy that it should
>> also cause the device realize to fail if migration is not supported.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alex
> 
> OK.
> 
> When enable_migration=AUTO we allow blockers.
> When enable_migration=ON we don't allow blockers and instead prevent realization of VFIO device.
> 
> Regarding device dirty tracking, we keep current behavior, right?
> That is:
> When enable_migration=AUTO we block migration if device dirty tracking is not supported.
> When enable_migration=ON we allow migration even if device dirty tracking is not supported > (in which case DMA-able memory will be perpetually dirtied).

Yes. That's how I understand it. This is what you initially proposed.

The default behavior is to allow migration only if the host kernel
driver supports dirty tracking.

We have a way to run and migrate a machine with a device not supporting
dirty tracking. Only Hisilicon is in that case today. May be there are
plans to add dirty tracking support ?

Thanks,

C.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-27 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-26  8:23 [PATCH 0/3] vfio/migration: Make VFIO migration non-experimental Avihai Horon
2023-06-26  8:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] vfio/migration: Move from STOP_COPY to STOP in vfio_save_cleanup() Avihai Horon
2023-06-26  9:56   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-06-26 11:31     ` Avihai Horon
2023-06-26  8:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] vfio/migration: Reset bytes_transferred properly Avihai Horon
2023-06-26  9:52   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-06-26 11:46     ` Avihai Horon
2023-06-26 12:01       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-06-26 12:08   ` Avihai Horon
2023-06-26  8:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] vfio/migration: Make VFIO migration non-experimental Avihai Horon
2023-06-26 13:20   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-06-26 13:40     ` Joao Martins
2023-06-26 15:26       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-06-26 16:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-26 16:39           ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-06-26 16:36         ` Joao Martins
2023-06-26 17:27         ` Alex Williamson
2023-06-27  8:00           ` Avihai Horon
2023-06-27 12:21             ` Cédric Le Goater [this message]
2023-06-27 12:30               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-06-28  3:09                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi via
2023-06-27 14:20             ` Alex Williamson

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