From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Yangming via <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: Yangming <yangming73@huawei.com>,
"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
"ani@anisinha.ca" <ani@anisinha.ca>,
"wangzhigang (O)" <wangzhigang17@huawei.com>,
"zhangliang (AG)" <zhangliang5@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: VM crashed while hot-plugging memory
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 16:49:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c0d725f-2de8-392a-9e8b-0e49dcecd9b4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230223203241.28d38c29@imammedo.users.ipa.redhat.com>
On 23.02.23 20:32, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:30:18 +0000
> Yangming via <qemu-devel@nongnu.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello all:
>>
>> I found VM crashed while hot-plugging memory.
>>
>> Base infomation:
>> qemu version: qemu-master
>> requirements: hugepages, virtio-gpu
>>
>> It happens by the following steps:
>> 1. Booting a VM with hugepages and a virtio-gpu device.
>> 2. Connecting VNC of the VM.
>> 3. After the VM booted, hot-plugging 512G memory.
>> 4. Then you can find that the image in vnc is blocked and the worse thing is that the VM crashed.
>>
>> Actually the vcpu is blocked because of dead lock.
>>
>> Analysis:
>> As when hot-pluging the BQL is held, at the meanwhile, virtio-gpu is trying to hold the BQL for writing date. Then a vcpu is blocked waiting for hugepages hot-plugging, specifically, waiting for touching pages. If the blocked vcpu stops for several seconds, the soft lockup will happen, if it stops for a long time, e.g. 30s, the VM will crash.
>>
>> I am wandering if there are some ideas to avoid VM soft lockup and even VM crash ?
>
> Maybe David can suggest something
> (CCed)
Using hugepages usually requires memory preallocation. That
preallocation is expensive and can take quite some time, and all
hotplugging operations happen under the BQL.
Things that could improve the situation without modifications:
(a) Disable memory preallocation (prealloc=off on the memory backend).
But that means that if you run out of huge pages, that your VM may
crash.
(b) Use a file on a hugetlb mount, and preallocate the memory
externally, outside of QEMU, before plugging creating the memory
backend and plugging the DIMM. As all memory is already
preallocated, plugging the DIMM should be fast.
(c) Use multiple, smaller DIMMs.
(d) Parallel preallocation, using multiple preallocation threads.
(e) Use virtio-mem instead of DIMMs, which will add the memory
incrementally in smaller steps (e.g., 128MiB -- 2 GiB). But it is
not supported by all guests (especially not under Windows yet).
There are some upstream ideas on how to do preallcoation with hugetlb
faster, especially, having a pool of pre-zero'ed huge pages in the
kernel, such that allocation of a huge page gets significantly faster --
not upstream.
Further, there was the idea of asynchronous preallocation in QEMU. That
could help when first creating the memory backend and waiting until it
was asynchronously preallocation. Then, one could plug the DIMM.
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-27 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-10 9:30 VM crashed while hot-plugging memory Yangming via
2023-02-23 19:32 ` Igor Mammedov
2023-02-27 15:49 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
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