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From: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Richard W . M . Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	"Ilya Dryomov" <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	"Peter Lieven" <pl@dlhnet.de>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>,
	"Ronnie Sahlberg" <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/16] qcow2: Fix cache_clean_timer
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2025 10:29:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d98f477-722c-4023-9b28-54d8faffff66@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQJ30-Ifcji8lrme@redhat.com>

On 29.10.25 21:23, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 28.10.2025 um 17:33 hat Hanna Czenczek geschrieben:
>> The cache-cleaner runs as a timer CB in the BDS AioContext.  With
>> multiqueue, it can run concurrently to I/O requests, and because it does
>> not take any lock, this can break concurrent cache accesses, corrupting
>> the image.  While the chances of this happening are low, it can be
>> reproduced e.g. by modifying the code to schedule the timer CB every
>> 5 ms (instead of at most once per second) and modifying the last (inner)
>> while loop of qcow2_cache_clean_unused() like so:
>>
>>      while (i < c->size && can_clean_entry(c, i)) {
>>          for (int j = 0; j < 1000 && can_clean_entry(c, i); j++) {
>>              usleep(100);
>>          }
>>          c->entries[i].offset = 0;
>>          c->entries[i].lru_counter = 0;
>>          i++;
>>          to_clean++;
>>      }
>>
>> i.e. making it wait on purpose for the point in time where the cache is
>> in use by something else.
>>
>> The solution chosen for this in this patch is not the best solution, I
>> hope, but I admittedly can’t come up with anything strictly better.
>>
>> We can protect from concurrent cache accesses either by taking the
>> existing s->lock, or we introduce a new (non-coroutine) mutex
>> specifically for cache accesses.  I would prefer to avoid the latter so
>> as not to introduce additional (very slight) overhead.
> In theory, the old plan was that eventually qcow2 would use fine grained
> locks instead of the single s->lock, and having a separate cache lock
> would be a step towards it. But if we never actually make use of it to
> hold s->lock for a shorter time, that's not really a good argument. I'm
> not sure if that's ever going to happen unless for a rewrite in Rust or
> something.
>
> I never tried to measure specifically if lock contention is a problem
> with high queue depth and random I/O on a huge disk. Intuitively,
> holding s->lock while doing I/O for loading entries into the cache can't
> be really good.
>
> Anyway, I went a bit on a tangent there...
>
>> Using s->lock, which is a coroutine mutex, however means that we need to
>> take it in a coroutine, so the timer CB must enter such a coroutine.  As
>> a result, descheduling the timer is no longer a guarantee that the
>> cache-cleaner will not run, because it may now be yielding in
>> qemu_co_mutex_lock().
> I think creating a coroutine in cache_clean_timer_cb() is the wrong
> approach. Instead, cache_clean_timer_init() could create a coroutine
> and its implementation could be something like this:
>
>      while (!s->cache_clean_timer_stopping) {
>          qemu_co_sleep_ns_wakeable(&s->cache_clean_timer_wake,
>                                    QEMU_CLOCK_VIRTUAL,
>                                    s->cache_clean_interval * NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND);
>
>          qemu_co_mutex_lock(&s->lock);
>          qcow2_cache_clean_unused(s->l2_table_cache);
>          qcow2_cache_clean_unused(s->refcount_block_cache);
>          qemu_co_mutex_unlock(&s->lock);
>      }
>      s->cache_clean_timer_stopping = false;

Ah, that’s nicer.  I think we can replace the flag by checking 
s->cache_clean_interval > 0 and adding a CoQueue to wake up waiting 
coroutines.

>> (Note even now this was only guaranteed for cache_clean_timer_del()
>> callers that run in the BDS (the timer’s) AioContext.  For callers
>> running in the main context, the problem may have already existed,
>> though maybe the BQL prevents timers from running in other contexts, I’m
>> not sure.)
>>
>> Polling to await the timer to actually settle seems very complicated for
>> something that’s rather a minor problem, but I can’t come up with any
>> better solution that doesn’t again just overlook potential problems.
>>
>> (One cleaner idea may be to have a generic way to have timers run
>> coroutines, and to await those when descheduling the timer.  But while
>> cleaner, it would also be more complicated, and I don’t think worth it
>> at this point.)
>>
>> (Not Cc-ing qemu-stable, as the issue is quite unlikely to be hit, and
>> I’m not too fond of this solution.)
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>   block/qcow2.h |  1 +
>>   block/qcow2.c | 90 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>>   2 files changed, 79 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>> @@ -867,6 +893,39 @@ static void cache_clean_timer_del(BlockDriverState *bs)
>>       }
>>   }
>>   
>> +/*
>> + * Delete the cache clean timer and await any yet running instance.
>> + * Must be called from the main or BDS AioContext, holding s->lock.
>> + */
>> +static void coroutine_fn
>> +cache_clean_timer_locked_co_del_and_wait(BlockDriverState *bs)
>> +{
>> +    BDRVQcow2State *s = bs->opaque;
>> +    IO_OR_GS_CODE();
>> +    cache_clean_timer_del(bs);
>> +    if (qatomic_read(&s->cache_clean_running)) {
>> +        qemu_co_mutex_unlock(&s->lock);
>> +        qatomic_set(&s->cache_clean_polling, true);
>> +        BDRV_POLL_WHILE(bs, qatomic_read(&s->cache_clean_running));
> Polling in a coroutine_fn is verboten.
>
> If we do need this function, I think it would be a yield here and a wake
> on the other side. I think we might be able to get around it if we move
> the call from qcow2_do_open() into qcow2_open() (i.e. outside the
> coroutine). A bit ugly, so your choice.

We can let a CoQueue do the waking, no?

>> +        qemu_co_mutex_lock(&s->lock);
>> +    }
>> +}
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * Delete the cache clean timer and await any yet running instance.
>> + * Must be called from the main or BDS AioContext without s->lock held.
>> + */
>> +static void cache_clean_timer_del_and_wait(BlockDriverState *bs)
>> +{
>> +    BDRVQcow2State *s = bs->opaque;
>> +    IO_OR_GS_CODE();
>> +    cache_clean_timer_del(bs);
>> +    if (qatomic_read(&s->cache_clean_running)) {
>> +        qatomic_set(&s->cache_clean_polling, true);
>> +        BDRV_POLL_WHILE(bs, qatomic_read(&s->cache_clean_running));
>> +    }
>> +}
>> +
>>   static void qcow2_detach_aio_context(BlockDriverState *bs)
>>   {
>>       cache_clean_timer_del(bs);
>> @@ -1214,12 +1273,20 @@ fail:
>>       return ret;
>>   }
>>   
>> +/* s_locked specifies whether s->lock is held or not */
>>   static void qcow2_update_options_commit(BlockDriverState *bs,
>> -                                        Qcow2ReopenState *r)
>> +                                        Qcow2ReopenState *r,
>> +                                        bool s_locked)
>>   {
>>       BDRVQcow2State *s = bs->opaque;
>>       int i;
>>   
>> +    if (s_locked) {
>> +        cache_clean_timer_locked_co_del_and_wait(bs);
>> +    } else {
>> +        cache_clean_timer_del_and_wait(bs);
>> +    }
>> +
>>       if (s->l2_table_cache) {
>>           qcow2_cache_destroy(s->l2_table_cache);
>>       }
>> @@ -1228,6 +1295,10 @@ static void qcow2_update_options_commit(BlockDriverState *bs,
>>       }
>>       s->l2_table_cache = r->l2_table_cache;
>>       s->refcount_block_cache = r->refcount_block_cache;
>> +
>> +    s->cache_clean_interval = r->cache_clean_interval;
>> +    cache_clean_timer_init(bs, bdrv_get_aio_context(bs));
>> +
>>       s->l2_slice_size = r->l2_slice_size;
>>   
>>       s->overlap_check = r->overlap_check;
>> @@ -1239,12 +1310,6 @@ static void qcow2_update_options_commit(BlockDriverState *bs,
>>   
>>       s->discard_no_unref = r->discard_no_unref;
>>   
>> -    if (s->cache_clean_interval != r->cache_clean_interval) {
>> -        cache_clean_timer_del(bs);
>> -        s->cache_clean_interval = r->cache_clean_interval;
>> -        cache_clean_timer_init(bs, bdrv_get_aio_context(bs));
>> -    }
>> -
> I think the del/init pair here won't be necessary any more after
> switching to the background coroutine. It will just start using the new
> value of s->cache_clean_interval the next time it sleeps.

One problem is that if we don’t lock s->lock, the coroutine can read 
s->l2_table_cache and s->refcount_block_cache while they’re invalid, 
which is why I moved the deletion above.  We also still need to delete 
if the interval is set to 0 (or special-case that in the coroutine to 
wait forever).

We could run all of this in a coroutine so we can lock s->lock, or we 
have to force-stop the timer/coroutine at the start.  Maybe running it 
in a coroutine is better…

Hanna



  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-31  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-28 16:33 [PATCH 00/16] block: Some multi-threading fixes Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 01/16] block: Note on aio_co_wake use if not yet yielding Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 02/16] rbd: Run co BH CB in the coroutine’s AioContext Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 03/16] iscsi: " Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-29 14:27   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-31  9:07     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-31 13:27       ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 04/16] nfs: " Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 05/16] curl: Fix coroutine waking Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-29 16:57   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-31  9:15     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-31 13:17       ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 06/16] gluster: Do not move coroutine into BDS context Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-29 17:10   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-31  9:16     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 07/16] nvme: Kick and check completions in " Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-29 17:23   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-29 17:39     ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-31  9:18       ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-31  9:19     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 08/16] nvme: Fix coroutine waking Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-29 17:43   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 09/16] block/io: Take reqs_lock for tracked_requests Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 10/16] qcow2: Fix cache_clean_timer Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-29 20:23   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-31  9:29     ` Hanna Czenczek [this message]
2025-10-31 13:03       ` Kevin Wolf
2025-11-06 16:08         ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 11/16] ssh: Run restart_coroutine in current AioContext Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 12/16] blkreplay: Run BH in coroutine’s AioContext Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 13/16] block: Note in which AioContext AIO CBs are called Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 14/16] iscsi: Create AIO BH in original AioContext Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 15/16] null-aio: Run CB " Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-28 16:33 ` [PATCH 16/16] win32-aio: Run CB in original context Hanna Czenczek
2025-10-30 14:12   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-10-31  9:31     ` Hanna Czenczek

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