From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] Making QMP 'block-job-cancel' transactionable
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 16:29:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0e1c78f3-1b82-58e4-035e-944484e66f29@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170324123458.yk3rj3g47e5xr33i@eukaryote>
On 03/24/2017 08:34 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
> While debugging some other issue, I happened to stumble across an old
> libvirt commit[*] that adds support for pivot (whether QEMU should
> switch to a target copy or not) operation as a result of issuing QMP
> 'block-job-cancel' to a 'drive-mirror' (in libvirt parlance, "block
> copy").
>
> In the libvirt commit message[*] Eric Blake writes:
>
> "[...] There may be potential improvements to the snapshot code to
> exploit block copy over multiple disks all at one point in time.
> And, if 'block-job-cancel' were made part of 'transaction', you
> could copy multiple disks at the same point in time without pausing
> the domain. [...]"
>
Oh, you want a transactional cancel to basically capitalize on the
second completion mode of the mirror job.
I have never really cared for the way this job works, because I don't
think "canceling" a ready job is semantically valid (it's not canceled!
We completed successfully, just using a different completion mode) --
but if I am in the minority here I would cede that a transactional
cancel would be a worthwhile thing to have.
I think at other points we have discussed the concept of having a
configurable completion mode that jobs could have (and allowing this
setting to be adjusted at runtime) that changes which completion mode
they'll pursue.
This would make a cancel unambiguously a cancellation. It would make a
non-pivot completion to a mirror action an unambiguous success, too.
Minor nit, perhaps, but I want to be sure before we cement the semantics
of how mirror can be "successful."
--js
> I realize that 'block-job-cancel' is currently not part of the
> @TransactionAction. Is it worthwhile to do so?
>
> Given the current behavior of QMP 'drive-mirror':
>
> - Upon 'block-job-complete', synchronization will end, and live QEMU
> pivots to the target (i.e. the copy)
>
> - Upon 'block-job-cancel', a point-in-time (at the time of cancel)
> copy gets created, and live QEMU will _not_ pivot.
>
> I realize that it is not possible to perform a "block copy" of multiple
> disks at the same point in time without pausing QEMU. From a brief chat
> with Stefan Hajnoczi on IRC, he does confirm that there's no current API
> for doing it atomically across multiple disks.
>
> Since Stefan asked if a bug exists for adding 'transaction' support to
> 'block-job-cancel', thought I might bring it up here first.
>
>
> [*] https://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commit;h=eaba79d --
> blockjob: support pivot operation on cancel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-03 20:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-24 12:34 [Qemu-devel] Making QMP 'block-job-cancel' transactionable Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-03-28 14:49 ` Eric Blake
2017-03-28 15:29 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-04-03 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-03 20:29 ` John Snow [this message]
2017-04-03 20:38 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-04 13:28 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-04-04 13:54 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 9:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2017-04-11 10:30 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-04-11 12:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-11 13:14 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 13:30 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-12 8:42 ` Fam Zheng
2017-04-12 8:59 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-12 9:12 ` Fam Zheng
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