From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43558) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bk9v8-0001rz-7M for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:08:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bk9v2-0004iK-FH for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:08:09 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:55510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bk9v2-0004iB-9n for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:08:04 -0400 References: <147377800565.11859.4411044563640180545.stgit@brijesh-build-machine> <147377810767.11859.4668503556528840901.stgit@brijesh-build-machine> <20160914052034-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <4f4370ee-bc29-3427-7e6e-a18d50c27ffc@redhat.com> <20160914155913-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> From: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <0fd3cbb9-9e46-9373-e989-acb45b56e8a9@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:07:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160914155913-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 10/22] sev: add SEV debug decrypt command List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Cc: Brijesh Singh , ehabkost@redhat.com, crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com, p.fedin@samsung.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net On 14/09/2016 15:05, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > I assumed that with debug on, memory is still encrypted but the > hypervisor can break encryption, and as the cover letter states, the > hypervisor is assumed benign. If true I don't see a need to > give users more rope. The hypervisor is assumed benign but vulnerable. So, if somebody breaks the hypervisor, you would like to make it as hard as possible for the attacker to do evil stuff to the guests. If the attacker can just ask the secure processor "decrypt some memory for me", then the encryption is effectively broken. Paolo