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[176.184.41.88]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id en14-20020a056402528e00b0055fef53460bsm4438414edb.0.2024.02.13.23.37.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Feb 2024 23:37:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1003f634-f13d-4a9e-af7a-34edc26e22a4@linaro.org> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 08:37:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: possible deprecation and removal of some old QEMU Arm machine types (pxa2xx, omap, sa1110) Content-Language: en-US To: Peter Maydell , QEMU Developers Cc: qemu-arm , Guenter Roeck , Marcin Juszkiewicz References: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::533; envelope-from=philmd@linaro.org; helo=mail-ed1-x533.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 12/2/24 13:32, Peter Maydell wrote: > So I would like to explore whether we can deprecate-and-drop > some or all of them. This would let us delete the code entirely > rather than spending a long time trying to bring it up to scratch > for a probably very small to nonexistent userbase. The aim of this > email is to see if anybody is still using any of these and would be > upset if they went away. Reports of "I tried to use this machine > type and it's just broken" are also interesting as they would > strongly suggest that the machine has no real users and can be > removed. > > The machines I have in mind are: > > PXA2xx machines: > connex Gumstix Connex (PXA255) > verdex Gumstix Verdex Pro XL6P COMs (PXA270) I can still run U-boot on these, but Gumstix webs are slowly disappearing with the prebuilt images there were sharing. Their wiki is also dead. I'm happy to use a stable release for my pflash experiments. > OMAP2 machines: > > n800 Nokia N800 tablet aka. RX-34 (OMAP2420) > n810 Nokia N810 tablet aka. RX-44 (OMAP2420) For me these are broken since 2020 (commit 7998beb9c2 "arm/nseries: use memdev for RAM"), this was discussed in https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/f2f276a9-a6ad-a2f8-2fbc-f1aca5423f79@amsat.org/ but there was no clear consensus so I gave up testing them.