[Qemu-devel] qemu and plan9

[Qemu-devel] qemu and plan9

[Marc Vertes]

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After the release of the news cirrus vga virtual display, I tried to
run plan9 (Unix successor from bell-labs) under qemu. The install floppy
image boots successfully and activated the graphic part. Very
impressive.

I had to tweak configurations file on the boot floppy image (see
http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html).

See attached plan9.ini (monitor line) and a few lines that I added in
vgadb:

ctlr
        vid=0x1013 did=0x00B8           # CL-GD5446
        0xC0006="Plex86/Bochs VGABios "            
        link=vga
        ctlr=clgd542x linear=1
        hwgc=clgd542xhwgc


The problem I face now is that the hard disk is not recognized. The
disk partitioning tool does not start.

I have created a correct hda image file. The command line is:

qemu -pci -cirrusvga -fda 9dsk.flp -hda plan9.img -boot a

Any advice to go further ?

Thanks.

--
Marc

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*nomp=1
distname=plan9
nobootprompt=local!/boot/bzroot

# serial console on COM1
#console=0

# disable ether and usb probing
#*nousbprobe=1
#*noetherprobe=1

ether0=type=NE2000
monitor=xga
vgasize=1024x768x8
mouseport=ps2
audio0=type=sb16
bootfile=fd0!dos!9pcflop.gz
installurl=http://204.178.31.2/magic/9down4e/compressed/1086553143.73ddntc7rw8er6yry6gz696q6tgf85x5
                                                   
                                                       
                            

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[OT] Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu and plan9

[Mark Guertin]

This is -very- Off Topic, but I, in good conscience,  had to voice this  
info...

Did anyone read at the agreement on their download page (  
http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html ) , specifically  
this part of the agreement:

" * I will not be using Plan 9 in the creation of weapons of mass  
destruction to be used by nations other than the US. "

This is _really_ unnerving for me, and was enough to make me run  
decline their agreement instantly and stop all considerations at  
examining their system setup.  Does this mean that they are condoning  
using their OS for weapons of mass destruction in the US (or that it's  
already in use for them)?  As a FOSS advocate and wishful for peace, I  
personally can't endorse a distribution that comes with such a stigma  
attached, and I encourage others to re-think their usage of it given  
the world situation as it is ...

Just my $0.02 but this deeply disturbed me and I felt the need to point  
this out to others so they could form their own opinion on this . . .

Mark

On 7-Jun-04, at 12:51 PM, Marc Vertes wrote:

> After the release of the news cirrus vga virtual display, I tried to
> run plan9 (Unix successor from bell-labs) under qemu. The install  
> floppy
> image boots successfully and activated the graphic part. Very
> impressive.
>
> I had to tweak configurations file on the boot floppy image (see
> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html).
>
> See attached plan9.ini (monitor line) and a few lines that I added in
> vgadb:
>
> ctlr
>         vid=0x1013 did=0x00B8           # CL-GD5446
>         0xC0006="Plex86/Bochs VGABios "
>         link=vga
>         ctlr=clgd542x linear=1
>         hwgc=clgd542xhwgc
>
>
> The problem I face now is that the hard disk is not recognized. The
> disk partitioning tool does not start.
>
> I have created a correct hda image file. The command line is:
>
> qemu -pci -cirrusvga -fda 9dsk.flp -hda plan9.img -boot a
>
> Any advice to go further ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Marc
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Re: [OT] Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu and plan9

[Antony T Curtis]

On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 18:39, Mark Guertin wrote:
> This is -very- Off Topic, but I, in good conscience,  had to voice this  
> info...
> 
> Did anyone read at the agreement on their download page (  
> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html ) , specifically  
> this part of the agreement:
> 
> " * I will not be using Plan 9 in the creation of weapons of mass  
> destruction to be used by nations other than the US. "

What about ally nations such as the United Kingdom?

Looks like a good slashdot topic :D

<snip>
-- 
Antony T Curtis <antony.t.curtis@ntlworld.com>

Re: [OT] Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu and plan9

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Ever heard of a one-way implication? Just because they ask one party to
certify that they are not going to do something DOES NOT imply that they
condone other parties actually doing it.

Probably they are just attempting to comply with export regulations.
They make no comment about use inside the U.S. since export regulations
don't come into play.

The general rule in F/OSS is that you don't set any limitations at all
on use and just (attempt) to disclaim responsibility (is that any more
ethical/moral? hmm...). But in fact you can't disclaim responsibility if
you actually distribute munitions to certain countries. This occurred in
the past with encryption software. It was just distributed in the
"non-us" part of Debian instead...

I'm parachuting out of this OT thread now...

-- John.

On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 10:39, Mark Guertin wrote:
> This is -very- Off Topic, but I, in good conscience,  had to voice this  
> info...
> 
> Did anyone read at the agreement on their download page (  
> http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html ) , specifically  
> this part of the agreement:
> 
> " * I will not be using Plan 9 in the creation of weapons of mass  
> destruction to be used by nations other than the US. "
> 
> This is _really_ unnerving for me, and was enough to make me run  
> decline their agreement instantly and stop all considerations at  
> examining their system setup.  Does this mean that they are condoning  
> using their OS for weapons of mass destruction in the US (or that it's  
> already in use for them)?  As a FOSS advocate and wishful for peace, I  
> personally can't endorse a distribution that comes with such a stigma  
> attached, and I encourage others to re-think their usage of it given  
> the world situation as it is ...
> 
> Just my $0.02 but this deeply disturbed me and I felt the need to point  
> this out to others so they could form their own opinion on this . . .
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 7-Jun-04, at 12:51 PM, Marc Vertes wrote:
> 
> > After the release of the news cirrus vga virtual display, I tried to
> > run plan9 (Unix successor from bell-labs) under qemu. The install  
> > floppy
> > image boots successfully and activated the graphic part. Very
> > impressive.
> >
> > I had to tweak configurations file on the boot floppy image (see
> > http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/download.html).
> >
> > See attached plan9.ini (monitor line) and a few lines that I added in
> > vgadb:
> >
> > ctlr
> >         vid=0x1013 did=0x00B8           # CL-GD5446
> >         0xC0006="Plex86/Bochs VGABios "
> >         link=vga
> >         ctlr=clgd542x linear=1
> >         hwgc=clgd542xhwgc
> >
> >
> > The problem I face now is that the hard disk is not recognized. The
> > disk partitioning tool does not start.
> >
> > I have created a correct hda image file. The command line is:
> >
> > qemu -pci -cirrusvga -fda 9dsk.flp -hda plan9.img -boot a
> >
> > Any advice to go further ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Marc
> > <plan9.ini><qemu-plan9 
> > -2.png>_______________________________________________
> > Qemu-devel mailing list
> > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> >
> 
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[Qemu-devel] Re: [OT] Re: qemu and plan9

[Gabriel Ebner]

John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
> But in fact you can't disclaim responsibility if
> you actually distribute munitions to certain countries. This occurred in
> the past with encryption software.

How can you even _dare_ to equate cryptography with munition?

        Gabriel.

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==> Please don't CC me!  I'm reading the list.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [OT] Re: qemu and plan9

[John R. Hogerhuis]

google for "munition encryption"

-- John.


On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 12:18, Gabriel Ebner wrote:
> John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
> > But in fact you can't disclaim responsibility if
> > you actually distribute munitions to certain countries. This occurred in
> > the past with encryption software.
> 
> How can you even _dare_ to equate cryptography with munition?
> 
>         Gabriel.

Re: [OT] Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu and plan9

[Jean-Michel POURE]

> " * I will not be using Plan 9 in the creation of weapons of mass  
> destruction to be used by nations other than the US. "
>
> This is _really_ unnerving for me, and was enough to make me run  
> decline their agreement instantly and stop all considerations at  
> examining their system setup.  Does this mean that they are condoning  
> using their OS for weapons of mass destruction in the US (or that it's  
> already in use for them)?  As a FOSS advocate and wishful for peace, I  
> personally can't endorse a distribution that comes with such a stigma  
> attached, and I encourage others to re-think their usage of it given  
> the world situation as it is ...
>
> Just my $0.02 but this deeply disturbed me and I felt the need to point  
> this out to others so they could form their own opinion on this . . .

+1.

Sounds like a reminder of what you asked to sign when you fly to the US, 
sentences like "I am not a terrorist" or "I don't take drugs" (from memory). 

Very funny.

Jean-Michel