From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C2BYm-00024A-IE for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:32:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C2BYk-00023x-V0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:32:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C2BYk-00023u-Rz for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:32:38 -0400 Received: from [65.199.107.5] (helo=web.dslmyway.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C2BTV-0006yX-2V for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:27:13 -0400 Received: from fred.soliddesign.net (fred.soliddesign.net [10.2.3.220]) by dash.soliddesign.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893565751D for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:27:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu development schedule? From: Joe Batt In-Reply-To: <000601c48f73$752b00a0$03389c3f@computername> References: <000501c48eda$a026ab40$20649c3f@computername> <1093903154.26682.44.camel@aragorn> <002001c48ee5$456d6a30$20389c3f@computername> <000601c48f73$752b00a0$03389c3f@computername> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1093969628.2835.98.camel@fred.soliddesign.net> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:27:08 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org [I normally hate posting rants partially off topic, but I am anyway.] On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 10:58, Jeebs wrote: > blah, blah, blah... Great. Do it. You aren't talking about development and you aren't a developer, so it sounds like a perfect match. Write up the documents describing what is needed and why. You may even convince a developer to do the work. You may drum up enough support to sponsor a developer to do the work. If you do a good job, people will use your work. If you don't they wont. I think you are a bit confused by the FOSS model. People don't write code because they are trying to improve the world. The code is written for themselves (for use or cash) and is shared with the world (why not, it doesn't cost to share it and it may come back improved). [Even further off topic: I just don't understand the whole "front end" thing. What can be simpler that typing or building a short cut/alias/script/batch file to 'qemu -hda w2k.img'? Qemu seemed much simpler than VMWare to install and run.] > At some point, successful open source projects have to transition from > the 'free for all' attitude and organization to one with some actual > specified goals and some organization. You must measure 'successful' differently. Take a look at the Linux project someday. 13 years old and there is still confusion as to how a new developer should get his or her patches in, what will be part of the next release and when releases will happen. Most collaboration happens in a mailing list and I'll bet Linus doesn't read all of his email. Linux is made user friendly somewhere else (RedHat), not by the core team. Joe