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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hw/virtio: reset virtio balloon stats on machine reset
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 15:11:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10d02197-88a7-4aad-afc3-fe9584a5a458@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z2Qo27nyv0uZkUGT@redhat.com>

On 19.12.24 15:08, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 02:51:21PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 18.12.24 18:29, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>> When a machine is first booted, all virtio balloon stats are initialized
>>> to their default value -1 (18446744073709551615 when represented as
>>> unsigned).
>>>
>>> They remain that way while the firmware is loading, and early phase of
>>> guest OS boot, until the virtio-balloon driver is activated. Thereafter
>>> the reported stats reflect the guest OS activity.
>>>
>>> When a machine reset is performed, however, the virtio-balloon stats are
>>> left unchanged by QEMU, despite the guest OS no longer updating them,
>>> nor indeed even still existing.
>>>
>>> IOW, the mgmt app keeps getting stale stats until the guest OS starts
>>> once more and loads the virtio-balloon driver (if ever). At that point
>>> the app will see a discontinuity in the reported values as they sudden
>>> jump from the stale value to the new value. This jump is indigituishable
>>> from a valid data update.
>>>
>>> While there is an "last-updated" field to report on the freshness of
>>> the stats, that does not unambiguously tell the mgmt app whether the
>>> stats are still conceptually relevant to the current running workload.
>>>
>>> It is more conceptually useful to reset the stats to their default
>>> values on machine reset, given that the previous guest workload the
>>> stats reflect no longer exists. The mgmt app can now clearly identify
>>> that there are is no stats information available from the current
>>> executing workload.
>>>
>>> The 'last-updated' time is also reset back to 0.
>>>
>>> IOW, on every machine reset, the virtio stats are in the same clean
>>> state they were when the macine first powered on.
>>>
>>> A functional test is added to validate this behaviour with a real
>>> world guest OS.
>>>> Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> One side-thought I have, is whether it makes sense to add a
>>> 'reset-count' field in the virtio stats, alongside the
>>> 'last-updated' field. While apps can infer a reset from seeing
>>> the stats all go back to their defaults, an explicit flag is
>>> simpler...
>>>
>>>    MAINTAINERS                             |   1 +
>>>    hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c              |  30 ++++-
>>>    include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h      |   4 +
>>>    tests/functional/test_virtio_balloon.py | 161 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>    4 files changed, 195 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>    create mode 100755 tests/functional/test_virtio_balloon.py
>>>
>>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>>> index 822f34344b..1380d53d03 100644
>>> --- a/MAINTAINERS
>>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>>> @@ -2234,6 +2234,7 @@ F: include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h
>>>    F: system/balloon.c
>>>    F: include/sysemu/balloon.h
>>>    F: tests/qtest/virtio-balloon-test.c
>>> +F: tests/functional/test_virtio_balloon.py
>>>    virtio-9p
>>>    M: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
>>> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
>>> index ab2ee30475..fe0854e198 100644
>>> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
>>> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
>>> @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
>>>    #include "trace.h"
>>>    #include "qemu/error-report.h"
>>>    #include "migration/misc.h"
>>> -
>>> +#include "sysemu/reset.h"
>>>    #include "hw/virtio/virtio-bus.h"
>>>    #include "hw/virtio/virtio-access.h"
>>> @@ -910,6 +910,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_device_realize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp)
>>>        }
>>>        reset_stats(s);
>>> +    s->stats_last_update = 0;
>>> +    qemu_register_resettable(OBJECT(dev));
>>>    }
>>>    static void virtio_balloon_device_unrealize(DeviceState *dev)
>>> @@ -917,6 +919,7 @@ static void virtio_balloon_device_unrealize(DeviceState *dev)
>>>        VirtIODevice *vdev = VIRTIO_DEVICE(dev);
>>>        VirtIOBalloon *s = VIRTIO_BALLOON(dev);
>>> +    qemu_unregister_resettable(OBJECT(dev));
>>>        if (s->free_page_bh) {
>>>            qemu_bh_delete(s->free_page_bh);
>>>            object_unref(OBJECT(s->iothread));
>>> @@ -987,6 +990,27 @@ static void virtio_balloon_set_status(VirtIODevice *vdev, uint8_t status)
>>>        }
>>>    }
>>
>> Using qemu_register_resettable() can have unfortunate side effects that this
>> code is triggered when the device is reset, not necessarily when the
>> complete machine.
>>
>> For virtio-mem at least that's an issue, and here is how I'll fix it:
>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20241218105303.1966303-2-david@redhat.com/
> 
> Urgh, that's a rather horrible situation. While your patch works around
> it quite effectively, it is pretty heavy weight, and of course relies on
> maintainers knowing this scenario exists - they won't learn this easily
> from the Resettable API design, nor its docs :-(

Yes.

> 
> Shouldn't we put to extend the Resettable design to make this scenario
> more explicity distinguishable in the Resettable callback implementations.

I'd be happy if I wouldn't need that heavy-weight stuff in virtio-mem 
code as well, so if you have ideas on how to avoid that in the future, 
that'd be great.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-19 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-18 17:29 [PATCH] hw/virtio: reset virtio balloon stats on machine reset Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-12-19 13:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-19 14:08   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-12-19 14:11     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-12-19 14:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-12-19 14:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-04  9:20   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-02-04  9:22     ` David Hildenbrand

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