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From: "John R. Hogerhuis" <jhoger@pobox.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] get_func() hangs with gcc 3.4.2 on MinGW and WinXP host
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:07:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1103404056.21895.83.camel@aragorn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412181558250.32234@wgmdd8.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de>

On Sat, 2004-12-18 at 06:59, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

> What do new gcc's do? Why is it impossible to chain the code? Do you have
> an example object file, or even better, an assembly snippet?


The op.c primitives are, well, primitive... at some point consideration
should be given to simply giving up.

That is, code the primitives in native assembler for each target CPU.

Certainly the C compiler is being well leveraged at present to do smart
things like allocating registers, but a decent assembly programmer will
make just as good or better decisions than gcc.

The path of least resistance to get there would be to generate op.s
files (using the necessary version of GCC) for all popular CPUs, and
make them part of the build. Then those could be hand optimized over
time as folks have the spare cycles to do it. This would remove specific
gcc version dependencies from the build with little effort.

Unless that's a GPL violation (distributing generated code under a
non-GPL license)... don't know about that angle. If that were the case,
the only option along this line would be coding from scratch unless GPL
is acceptable for the core. [QEMU uses mixed licensing and I don't have
it straight in my head, sorry.]

-- John.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-12-18 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-15 13:47 [Qemu-devel] get_func() hangs with gcc 3.4.2 on MinGW and WinXP host tomba
2004-12-15 14:18 ` Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-15 14:59   ` tomba
2004-12-15 23:45     ` Jim C. Brown
2004-12-15 23:52       ` Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-17 18:56         ` Juergen Lock
2004-12-18  0:09           ` Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-18  4:04             ` Jim C. Brown
2004-12-18 14:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-18 15:50                 ` Jim C. Brown
2004-12-19 14:25                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-19 22:57                     ` Jim C. Brown
2004-12-18 21:07                 ` John R. Hogerhuis [this message]
2004-12-18 21:59                   ` Jim C. Brown
2004-12-19 14:45                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-20  6:26                     ` John R. Hogerhuis
2004-12-20 15:16                       ` Removing GCC dependency, was " Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-20 18:02                         ` John R. Hogerhuis
2004-12-20 23:30                           ` Fabrice Bellard
2004-12-21 14:36                             ` [Qemu-devel] Testing with Win2k SP3 and Win2kSP4 Elefterios Stamatogiannakis
2004-12-21 15:23                             ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Removing GCC dependency Paul Brook
2004-12-21 15:36                               ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-12-19 22:13           ` [Qemu-devel] get_func() hangs with gcc 3.4.2 on MinGW and WinXP host Fabrice Bellard
2004-12-19 22:29             ` Johannes Schindelin
2004-12-20  3:31               ` Rob Browning
2004-12-20 18:57                 ` John R. Hogerhuis
2005-01-17 14:16                   ` CMinusMins, was " Johannes Schindelin
2005-01-17 15:36                     ` malc
2005-01-17 15:53                       ` Jim C. Brown
2005-01-17 16:13                         ` OCAML, was " Mark A. Williamson

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