From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CzoMu-0000kp-1D for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:54:52 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CzoMh-0000ev-EB for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:54:40 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CzoMg-0000aO-9h for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:54:38 -0500 Received: from [65.19.178.186] (helo=pythonhacker.is-a-geek.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CzntS-0004Rm-Hx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:24:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pythonhacker.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6E5403D4 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pythonhacker.is-a-geek.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pythonhacker.is-a-geek.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07410-02 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pythonhacker.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE6A403CF for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:23:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: The QEMU Accelerator Module From: Darryl Dixon In-Reply-To: References: <420BEEB7.1010906@bellard.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-tEEM2Vw33CQJcA0qo7yZ" Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:23:53 +1300 Message-Id: <1108178633.7659.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: esrever_otua@pythonhacker.is-a-geek.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org --=-tEEM2Vw33CQJcA0qo7yZ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please Johannes, No-one has suggested that Fabrice should work for nothing; that was not a fair comment at all. Many people on this list (myself included) have in fact offered finance to see the accelerator module GPL'ed (if that is possible). The question Anand asked is eminently reasonable and for perfectly practical reasons it needs to be resolved one way or the other (e.g. if the accel module must be hosted elsewhere, would it be best to move the whole project so everything stays in one place?). An equally unfair counter-question would be 'is it fair to use freely provided hosting that cost other people real money and break their TOS?' I for one am happy to see the existence of this module in any form at all, but that doesn't mean that certain practical matters can be ignored. In fact, the Wine project just recently grappled with the same issue with (IIRC) Microsoft's DCOM redistributable and their sourceforge hosting. In the end they now host it elsewhere. Perhaps Fabrice could get an exception from the Savannah team if they are asked? Many regards, Darryl Dixon On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 03:01 +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Anand Kumria wrote: > > > Is it really fair to distribute a proprietary module from a free software > > source code repository? > > Is it really fair to expect others to work for nothing at all? > > Hth, > Dscho > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qemu-devel mailing list > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel -- Darryl Dixon --=-tEEM2Vw33CQJcA0qo7yZ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please Johannes,

   No-one has suggested that Fabrice should work for nothing; that was not a fair comment at all.  Many people on this list (myself included) have in fact offered finance to see the accelerator module GPL'ed (if that is possible).  The question Anand asked is eminently reasonable and for perfectly practical reasons it needs to be resolved one way or the other (e.g. if the accel module must be hosted elsewhere, would it be best to move the whole project so everything stays in one place?).  An equally unfair counter-question would be 'is it fair to use freely provided hosting that cost other people real money and break their TOS?'

    I for one am happy to see the existence of this module in any form at all, but that doesn't mean that certain practical matters can be ignored.  In fact, the Wine project just recently grappled with the same issue with (IIRC) Microsoft's DCOM redistributable and their sourceforge hosting.  In the end they now host it elsewhere.  Perhaps Fabrice could get an exception from the Savannah team if they are asked?

Many regards,
Darryl Dixon

On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 03:01 +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: 
Hi,

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Anand Kumria wrote:

> Is it really fair to distribute a proprietary module from a free software
> source code repository?

Is it really fair to expect others to work for nothing at all?

Hth,
Dscho



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