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From: maestro <maestro82@gmail.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Access to QEMU's guest physical memory
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:26:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1158168416.5228.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef735050609130305xf6ab5e0uc9839da461d6841b@mail.gmail.com>

Am Mittwoch, den 13.09.2006, 12:05 +0200 schrieb G Portokalidis:
> Hello,
> I have been in the process of porting Argos to Qemu 0.8.2.
> In case you haven't heard of Argos, it's basically Qemu extended to
> track network data entering the emulator to identify their illegal use
> (exploits, etc).
> 
> I am using the softmmu to track all accesses to physical memory to
> track which memory addresses are occupied by network data.
> 
> I am trying to figure out all the possible ways guest physical memory
> is accessed at runtime. Besides the softmmu, i also identified that
> DMA also access physical memory using cpu_physical_memory_rw(), in
> exec.c.
> 
> Do any virtual peripherals access guest physical memory without using
> the above call, or is memory altered by Qemu's dynamic translation (or
> other components)?
> 
> I must be missing something, since i have noticed that when memory is
> cluttered with network data  (because of using IE for example),
> starting a new application reports that values used in jmp
> instructions (op_jmp_T0, in op.c) come from the network, while that is
> not the case.
> 
> It seems that loading a new executable to guest memory is not tracked,
> and as a result a page previously used by IE is not "cleaned". Another
> thought is that maybe the translation writes data to guest physical
> memory, but from what i understand of Qemu translation seems to only
> touch host memory.
> 
> If any of the developers could help, it would be appreciated.
> I have spent many hours going through Qemu's code without result.
> 
> Thanks in advance, and I hope this is not immediately discarded as
> being too long. :-P
> 
> Cheers,
> George
> 
Hello George,

I've read the ARGOS paper - good paper! I'm not familiar with the argos
source code but I've encountered the situation that windows clears pages
with 8byte (64-bit) wide st operations consisting of all 0s. (even on
32bit win2k), and it gave me a lot of the same stuff you're describing
above when I thought that 32bit windows only does 32bit memwrites. (I
instrumented the ld/st macros in softmmu_{header,template}.h for that
purpose)

if you find anything else please let me know since I'm very interested
in that.

cheers
m.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-13 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-13 10:05 [Qemu-devel] Access to QEMU's guest physical memory G Portokalidis
2006-09-13 17:26 ` maestro [this message]
2006-09-20  9:20   ` G Portokalidis

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