qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.caveayland@nutanix.com>
Cc: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com,
	eduardo@habkost.net, imammedo@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 01/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: restrict isapc machine to 32-bit CPUs
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 14:05:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1178e514-a054-4ace-a5b7-06ca899badec@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK7wDn03e8RtKmk3@redhat.com>

On 27/8/25 13:46, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
>> On 26/08/2025 08:25, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/22/2025 8:11 PM, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
>>>> The isapc machine represents a legacy ISA PC with a 486 CPU. Whilst it is
>>>> possible to specify any CPU via -cpu on the command line, it makes no
>>>> sense to allow modern 64-bit CPUs to be used.
>>>>
>>>> Restrict the isapc machine to the available 32-bit CPUs, taking care to
>>>> handle the case where if a user inadvertently uses -cpu max then the
>>>> "best"
>>>> 32-bit CPU is used (in this case the pentium3).
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.caveayland@nutanix.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>    hw/i386/pc_piix.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>    1 file changed, 26 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
>>>> index c03324281b..5720b6b556 100644
>>>> --- a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
>>>> +++ b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
>>>> @@ -436,6 +436,19 @@ static void pc_set_south_bridge(Object *obj,
>>>> int value, Error **errp)
>>>>    #ifdef CONFIG_ISAPC
>>>>    static void pc_init_isa(MachineState *machine)
>>>>    {
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * There is a small chance that someone unintentionally passes
>>>> "- cpu max"
>>>> +     * for the isapc machine, which will provide a much more modern
>>>> 32-bit
>>>> +     * CPU than would be expected for an ISA-era PC. If the "max"
>>>> cpu type has
>>>> +     * been specified, choose the "best" 32-bit cpu possible which
>>>> we consider
>>>> +     * be the pentium3 (deliberately choosing an Intel CPU given
>>>> that the
>>>> +     * default 486 CPU for the isapc machine is also an Intel CPU).
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    if (!strcmp(machine->cpu_type, X86_CPU_TYPE_NAME("max"))) {
>>>> +        machine->cpu_type = X86_CPU_TYPE_NAME("pentium3");
>>>> +        warn_report("-cpu max is invalid for isapc machine, using
>>>> pentium3");
>>>> +    }
>>>
>>> Do we need to handle the case of "-cpu host"?
>>
>> I don't believe so. I wasn't originally planning to support "-cpu max" for
>> isapc, however Daniel mentioned that it could possibly be generated from
>> libvirt so it makes sense to add the above check to warn in this case and
>> then continue.
> 
> Libvirt will support sending any valid -cpu flag, including both
> 'max' (any config) and 'host' (if KVM).
> 
> If 'isapc' still expects to support KVM, then it would be odd to
> reject 'host', but KVM presumably has no built-in way to limit to
> 32-bit without QEMU manually masking many features ?
> 
> I'm a little worried about implications of libvirt sending '-cpu max'
> and QEMU secretly turning that into '-cpu pentium3', as opposed to
> having '-cpu max' expand to equiv to 'pentium3', which might cauase
> confusion when libvirt queries the expanded CPU ? Copying Jiri for
> an opinion from libvirt side, as I might be worrying about nothing.

OK, on 2nd thought, even while warning the user, changing the type
under the hood isn't great.

What about simply removing "max" of valid_cpu_types[], since it is
clearly confusing "max" == "pentium3"...


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-22 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 12:11 [PATCH v6 00/19] hw/i386: separate isapc out from pc_piix Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 01/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: restrict isapc machine to 32-bit CPUs Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26  7:25   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-27 11:10     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-27 11:46       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-22 10:44         ` Jiří Denemark
2025-09-22 12:05         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2025-09-22 12:35           ` Igor Mammedov
2025-09-22 13:56             ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-09-23  9:30               ` Igor Mammedov
2025-09-24 12:50                 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-10-02 13:31                   ` Igor Mammedov
2025-09-22 12:55           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-27 11:50       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-28 10:42         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-09-22 12:01           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-09-22 13:40             ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 02/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: remove include for loader.h Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26  7:30   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 03/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: inline pc_xen_hvm_init_pci() into pc_xen_hvm_init() Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26  7:34   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 04/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: duplicate pc_init1() into pc_isa_init() Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26  9:21   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-27 10:47     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 05/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: remove pcmc->pci_enabled dependent initialisation from pc_init_isa() Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26  9:48   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 06/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: remove SMI and piix4_pm " Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26  9:52   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 07/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: remove SGX " Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 11:55   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 08/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: remove nvdimm " Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 11:56   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 09/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: simplify RAM size logic in pc_init_isa() Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 14:58   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-26 10:01   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-27 11:00     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-28  8:41       ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-09-22 12:08         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-09-22 13:44           ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 10/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: hardcode hole64_size to 0 " Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 11:57   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 11/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: remove pc_system_flash_cleanup_unused() from pc_init_isa() Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 12/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: always initialise ISA IDE drives in pc_init_isa() Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 12:01   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v6 13/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: assume pcmc->pci_enabled is always false " Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26  9:50   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-27 11:32     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 12:12 ` [PATCH v6 14/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: hardcode pcms->pci_bus to NULL " Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 12:03   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:12 ` [PATCH v6 15/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: assume pcmc->pci_enabled is always true in pc_init1() Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 12:09   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-27 11:54     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-22 12:12 ` [PATCH v6 16/19] hw/i386: move isapc machine to separate isapc.c file Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 12:10   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:12 ` [PATCH v6 17/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: remove unused headers after isapc machine split Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 12:10   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:12 ` [PATCH v6 18/19] hw/i386/pc_piix.c: replace rom_memory with pci_memory Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 12:11   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-08-22 12:12 ` [PATCH v6 19/19] hw/i386/isapc.c: replace rom_memory with system_memory Mark Cave-Ayland
2025-08-26 12:12   ` Xiaoyao Li

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1178e514-a054-4ace-a5b7-06ca899badec@linaro.org \
    --to=philmd@linaro.org \
    --cc=berrange@redhat.com \
    --cc=eduardo@habkost.net \
    --cc=imammedo@redhat.com \
    --cc=jdenemar@redhat.com \
    --cc=marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com \
    --cc=mark.caveayland@nutanix.com \
    --cc=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=xiaoyao.li@intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).