[Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Sebastien WILLEMIJNS]

hi,

i noticed ubuntu LiveCD 7.04 QEMU emulation now only works with RTL8139
NICs (because NE2K drivers seems has been deleted from ISO)

i'm not surprised because they are no "standard in facto" as SB for
sound and SVGA for graphic but i'd like in the future
adding some new NIC ROM if RTL8139 will be not available in ubuntu...

Re: [Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Mike Swanson]

On Friday 14 September 2007 12:07:35 Sebastien WILLEMIJNS wrote:
> hi,
>
> i noticed ubuntu LiveCD 7.04 QEMU emulation now only works with RTL8139
> NICs (because NE2K drivers seems has been deleted from ISO)
>
> i'm not surprised because they are no "standard in facto" as SB for
> sound and SVGA for graphic but i'd like in the future
> adding some new NIC ROM if RTL8139 will be not available in ubuntu...

Honestly, I thought that NE2000 *was* the de facto standard :P

Re: [Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Christian MICHON]

On 9/14/07, Mike Swanson <mikeonthecomputer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday 14 September 2007 12:07:35 Sebastien WILLEMIJNS wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > i noticed ubuntu LiveCD 7.04 QEMU emulation now only works with RTL8139
> > NICs (because NE2K drivers seems has been deleted from ISO)
> >
> > i'm not surprised because they are no "standard in facto" as SB for
> > sound and SVGA for graphic but i'd like in the future
> > adding some new NIC ROM if RTL8139 will be not available in ubuntu...
>
> Honestly, I thought that NE2000 *was* the de facto standard :P
>
>
>

Really ?

Look at the other virtualizers/emulators:
Realtek RTL8139 is the standard eth0 for MS VirtualPC 2007

I have not checked Parallels for ages but I believe it was the case too.

Does it matter ? You can always recompile the module needed and
add it to ubuntu (you may need to modify the iso).

I'll release soon DetaolB v0.7: it's a live CD, it may not be as big
as Ubuntu, but in this next release, network using eth0 ne2k works
and you'll be able to use network out-of-the-box if used inside qemu.

-- 
Christian
--
http://detaolb.sourceforge.net/, a linux distribution for Qemu with Git inside !

Re: [Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Sebastien WILLEMIJNS]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:25:13 +0200, "Christian MICHON"
<christian.michon@gmail.com> said:

> > Honestly, I thought that NE2000 *was* the de facto standard :P
> Really ?
> 
> Look at the other virtualizers/emulators:
> Realtek RTL8139 is the standard eth0 for MS VirtualPC 2007

it is true NE2K was included by default in NT4, now virtualpc has
prefered to use RTL8139...

> Does it matter ? You can always recompile the module needed and
> add it to ubuntu (you may need to modify the iso).

why the ROM is included in the executable ? 
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[Qemu-devel] Re: about NICs

[Ben Pfaff]

"Christian MICHON" <christian.michon@gmail.com> writes:

> Look at the other virtualizers/emulators:
> Realtek RTL8139 is the standard eth0 for MS VirtualPC 2007
>
> I have not checked Parallels for ages but I believe it was the case too.

VMware has pcnet32 (older versions) and e1000 (newer versions)
NICs.
-- 
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http://benpfaff.org

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: about NICs

[Filip Navara]

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Both of these cards have implementations for QEMU. The PCnet one is in the
CVS for quite some time and the e1000 emulation was discussed on the mailing
list some time ago, but wasn't merged (yet?).

Best regards, Filip Navara

On 9/15/07, Ben Pfaff <blp@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> "Christian MICHON" <christian.michon@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Look at the other virtualizers/emulators:
> > Realtek RTL8139 is the standard eth0 for MS VirtualPC 2007
> >
> > I have not checked Parallels for ages but I believe it was the case too.
>
> VMware has pcnet32 (older versions) and e1000 (newer versions)
> NICs.
> --
> Ben Pfaff
> http://benpfaff.org
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Soren Hansen]

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On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:07:35PM +0200, Sebastien WILLEMIJNS wrote:
> i noticed ubuntu LiveCD 7.04 QEMU emulation now only works with
> RTL8139 NICs (because NE2K drivers seems has been deleted from ISO)

ne2k-pci is on the Fiesty CD's. Which one did you need?

-- 
Soren Hansen
Ubuntu Server Team
http://www.ubuntu.com/

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Re: [Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Sebastien WILLEMIJNS]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:23:57 +0200, "Soren Hansen" <soren@ubuntu.com>
said:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:07:35PM +0200, Sebastien WILLEMIJNS wrote:
> > i noticed ubuntu LiveCD 7.04 QEMU emulation now only works with
> > RTL8139 NICs (because NE2K drivers seems has been deleted from ISO)
> 
> ne2k-pci is on the Fiesty CD's. Which one did you need?

with "ubuntu 6.04 emulation" under QEMU i hasn't need to include a
parameter in the qemu commadline 
with "ubuntu 7.04 emulation" under QEMU i must add
"-net nic,vlan=0,model=rtl8139 -net user,vlan=0,hostname=foo" ;)


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Re: [Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Sebastien WILLEMIJNS]

On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:25:13 +0200, "Christian MICHON"
<christian.michon@gmail.com> said:

> > Honestly, I thought that NE2000 *was* the de facto standard :P
> Really ?
>
> Look at the other virtualizers/emulators:
> Realtek RTL8139 is the standard eth0 for MS VirtualPC 2007

it is true NE2K was included by default in NT4, now virtualpc has
prefered to use RTL8139...

> Does it matter ? You can always recompile the module needed and
> add it to ubuntu (you may need to modify the iso).

why the ROM is included in the executable ?

Re: [Qemu-devel] about NICs

[Sebastien WILLEMIJNS]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:23:57 +0200, "Soren Hansen" <soren@ubuntu.com>
said:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:07:35PM +0200, Sebastien WILLEMIJNS wrote:
> > i noticed ubuntu LiveCD 7.04 QEMU emulation now only works with
> > RTL8139 NICs (because NE2K drivers seems has been deleted from ISO)
> 
> ne2k-pci is on the Fiesty CD's. Which one did you need?

with "ubuntu 6.04 emulation" under QEMU i hasn't need to include a
parameter in the qemu commadline 
with "ubuntu 7.04 emulation" under QEMU i must add
"-net nic,vlan=0,model=rtl8139 -net user,vlan=0,hostname=foo" ;)