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From: "J. Mayer" <l_indien@magic.fr>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu hw/ppc_oldworld.c target-ppc/cpu.h target-...
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:55:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1195869354.24893.72.camel@rapid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1195867970.24893.66.camel@rapid>


On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 02:32 +0100, J. Mayer wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 00:52 +0000, Paul Brook wrote:
> > > >  By your own admission, we can get away with not calculating the
> > > > high 32 bit of the register. If follows that the high bits are completely
> > > > meaningless.
> > >
> > > Not completelly. There are even some way to do 64 bits computations when
> > > running in 32 bits mode... Some may see this as an architecture hack,
> > > but this gives the only way to switch from 32 bits to 64 bits mode (as
> > > the sixty-four MSR bits lies in the highest bits of the register).
> > 
> > Anything that involves switching to 64-bit mode to see th results is irelevant 
> > because we don't implement that.
> >
> > You can't have it both ways. Either you need to implement the full 64-bit gpr 
> > for correctness, in which case I guess we're most of the way to scrapping 
> > ppc-softmmu and using ppc64-softmmu all the time, or the high bits are not 
> > part of the interesting CPU state.
> 
> Yes, when running on a 64 bits host, we could avoid compiling
> ppc-softmmu. It's still interresting to use it on 32 bits host, as an
> optimisation, because it runs much faster than the ppc64-softmmu
> version.
> 
> > I can believe that on some hosts it's cheaper to use a 64-bit gpr_t, and the 
> > architecture/implementation is such that it gives the same results as a 
> > 32-bit gpr_t. However this is an implementation detail, and should not be 
> > exposed to the user.

I did forget one important point: it's not exposed to the qemu user.
The qemu log is a qemu developper tool.Most of the trace involved has to
be explicitally activated with specific defines in the Qemu code. The
qemu log is not to be of any help for a end-user, it's a tool for Qemu
development and bug reports.
>From the end-user side, the fact that GPR are implemented as 64 bits
values is never visible, even from the gdb stub. Then...

[...]

-- 
J. Mayer <l_indien@magic.fr>
Never organized

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-24  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-23 17:33 [Qemu-devel] qemu hw/ppc_oldworld.c target-ppc/cpu.h target- Paul Brook
2007-11-23 17:51 ` Jocelyn Mayer
2007-11-23 18:22   ` Paul Brook
2007-11-23 18:42     ` Jocelyn Mayer
2007-11-23 18:46       ` Jocelyn Mayer
2007-11-23 19:10       ` Paul Brook
2007-11-23 19:19         ` Jocelyn Mayer
2007-11-23 20:08         ` Jocelyn Mayer
2007-11-23 21:36           ` Paul Brook
2007-11-23 22:05             ` J. Mayer
2007-11-23 22:23               ` Paul Brook
2007-11-23 23:36                 ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-11-24 19:39                   ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-11-23 23:36                 ` J. Mayer
2007-11-24  0:18                   ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-11-24  0:52                   ` Paul Brook
2007-11-24  1:02                     ` Julian Seward
2007-11-24  1:32                     ` J. Mayer
2007-11-24  1:55                       ` J. Mayer [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-23 22:16 Jocelyn Mayer

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