[Qemu-devel] Qemu Trac?

[Qemu-devel] Qemu Trac?

[C.W. Betts]

Is there a trac or something similar that keeps track of bug reports  
and feature requests?

Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu Trac?

[Anthony Liguori]

C.W. Betts wrote:
> Is there a trac or something similar that keeps track of bug reports 
> and feature requests?

No.  KVM has a bug tracker.  Each distro has bug trackers too.  To be 
completely honest, the distro bug trackers are probably the best place 
to file bugs simply because they have people who's job it is to poke 
upstream developers about particular bugs :-)  Of course, that requires 
reproducing with the distro packages.

In terms of feature requests, you can post to the mailing list, but a 
patch (even one that doesn't work all that well) is going to get you 
much further than a request.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu Trac?

[Mark McLoughlin]

On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 19:18 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> C.W. Betts wrote:
> > Is there a trac or something similar that keeps track of bug reports 
> > and feature requests?
> 
> No.  KVM has a bug tracker.  Each distro has bug trackers too.  To be 
> completely honest, the distro bug trackers are probably the best place 
> to file bugs simply because they have people who's job it is to poke 
> upstream developers about particular bugs :-)  Of course, that requires 
> reproducing with the distro packages.

An upstream bug tracker is much more preferable IMHO.

Distro bug trackers are only good for tracking stuff that distro
developers might actually work on.

If it's a bug or feature request that is relevant upstream and is never
going to reach the top of the distro developer's queue, then the
information belongs somewhere that upstream developers or developers of
other distros can see it.

Of course, an upstream bug tracker that is mostly ignored isn't much
help either. The KVM tracker is an example of that. But it's still
better to have stuff ignored in an upstream bug tracker than stuff
ignored in a distro bug tracker.

Cheers,
Mark.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu Trac?

[Anthony Liguori]

Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 19:18 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> C.W. Betts wrote:
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>>> Is there a trac or something similar that keeps track of bug reports 
>>> and feature requests?
>>>       
>> No.  KVM has a bug tracker.  Each distro has bug trackers too.  To be 
>> completely honest, the distro bug trackers are probably the best place 
>> to file bugs simply because they have people who's job it is to poke 
>> upstream developers about particular bugs :-)  Of course, that requires 
>> reproducing with the distro packages.
>>     
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> An upstream bug tracker is much more preferable IMHO.
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> Distro bug trackers are only good for tracking stuff that distro
> developers might actually work on.
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> If it's a bug or feature request that is relevant upstream and is never
> going to reach the top of the distro developer's queue, then the
> information belongs somewhere that upstream developers or developers of
> other distros can see it.
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> Of course, an upstream bug tracker that is mostly ignored isn't much
> help either. The KVM tracker is an example of that. But it's still
> better to have stuff ignored in an upstream bug tracker than stuff
> ignored in a distro bug tracker.
>   

I, and I expect many other developers, have a hard time getting excited 
about bug trackers.  I think something that's a bit more exciting is an 
regression suite that posts results somewhere public.  It makes it 
harder to submit bug reports (because it requires submission of a test 
case), but it makes triage/state tracking automatic.

If someone wants to invest some effort into improving QEMU QA, I'd 
suggest looking at automated regression testing.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Cheers,
> Mark.
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