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From: Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Re: [PATCH 2/3] Introduce monitor 'wait' command
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:31:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1239226294.21926.45.camel@slate.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49DD13CA.5050209@codemonkey.ws>

On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 16:14 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:35 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >   
> >> You're basically saying that if something isn't connected, drop them.  
> >> If it is connected, do a monitor_printf() such that you're never queuing 
> >> events.  Entirely reasonable and I've considered it.
> >>
> >> However, I do like the idea though of QEMU queuing events for a certain 
> >> period of time.  Not everyone always has something connected to a 
> >> monitor.  I may notice that my NFS server (which runs in a VM) is not 
> >> responding, VNC to the system, switch to the monitor, and take a look at 
> >> the event log.  If I can get the past 10 minutes of events, I may see 
> >> something useful like a host IO failure.
> >>     
> >
> > "10 minutes" is the red flag for me. Why not 5 minutes? 60 minutes? 24
> > hours? The fact that it's so arbitrary suggests it doesn't really
> > belong. If you care, you can attach a logging daemon that keeps the last
> > 10 minutes worth of data...
> >   
> 
> It has to be some finite amount.   You're right, it's arbitrary, but so 
> is every other memory limitation we have in QEMU.  You could make it 
> user configurable but that's just punting the problem.
> 
> You have to do some level of buffering.  It's unavoidable.  If you 
> aren't buffering at the event level, you buffer at the socket level, etc.

If the socket will buffer it, why do you *also* want to buffer in qemu
(adding code and complexity)?

-- 
Hollis Blanchard
IBM Linux Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-08 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-08 14:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Allow multiple monitor devices Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Introduce monitor 'wait' command Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 14:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-08 14:39     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 15:03     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-08 15:25       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-08 17:44       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 19:06         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-08 19:35           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 20:28             ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-04-08 21:14               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 21:31                 ` Hollis Blanchard [this message]
2009-04-09 13:59                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 21:39                 ` Paul Brook
2009-04-09  8:24                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:56                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 17:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-08 21:27             ` Zachary Amsden
2009-04-09  9:55           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-09 17:13             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-09  9:44         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-09 13:31           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Implement vm-state notifications Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 14:27 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/3] Allow multiple monitor devices Jan Kiszka

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