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From: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>
To: dlaor@redhat.com
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	ajax@redhat.com, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Change virtio-console to PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_OTHER
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:49:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1243932550.9146.101.camel@blaa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A2295CE.309@redhat.com>

On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 17:35 +0300, Dor Laor wrote:
> Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 00:45 +0300, Dor Laor wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Nevertheless, as Anthony states, guest ABI should be rock stable.
> >> We should have mechanism (machine conf format++) that will enable us
> >> to configure pci addresses, cpuid entries, memory layout, device 
> >> existence (hpet, virtio-console,..), etc.
> >>
> >> Anyhow, I did sent a patch to allow virtio block to parametrized class 
> >> value -
> >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2009-05/msg01189.html
> >> There wasn't a perfect match with finding the right interface to change 
> >> it, happy to hear
> >> other alternatives if you're not happy with it.
> >>     
> >
> > As I said, it's pointless to add something like this if, realistically,
> > it will never be used.
> >
> > So, taking the example of '-drive class=foo' ... a user who runs qemu
> > directly would have to know that when she updates from qemu-0.10.x to
> > qemu-0.11.x, she needs to use '-drive class=384' for ever more. I find
> > it hard to believe anyone will ever do that.
> >   
> 'She' is not a user, she is a developer.
> Users use management tools like libvirt below.
> Running qemu directly is complicated and error prone for
> manual/human users.

Agreed, which suggests (to me, at least) that the important thing to
think about is how management tools would use any support we add for
maintaining guest ABI.

Cheers,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-02  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-22 17:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Change virtio-console to PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_OTHER Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-24  9:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-27 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-27 17:42   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-27 22:37     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28  9:33       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-28  9:44         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28 12:53     ` Paul Brook
2009-05-28 12:56       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28 13:22         ` Paul Brook
2009-05-28 13:29           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28 21:45             ` Dor Laor
2009-05-29  9:43               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-29  9:50                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-31 14:32                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-29  9:55                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-29 10:09                 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-31 14:47                   ` Dor Laor
2009-06-02  8:49                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-02 13:08                       ` Dor Laor
2009-06-02 13:39                         ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-31 14:35                 ` Dor Laor
2009-06-02  8:49                   ` Mark McLoughlin [this message]
2009-05-28 13:04       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-28 13:19         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-31 18:48           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-28 13:20         ` Paul Brook

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