From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MF9yc-0007LU-Jg for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:51:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MF9yX-0007Hc-Om for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:51:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59462 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MF9yX-0007HB-Bo for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:51:33 -0400 Received: from mx2.redhat.com ([66.187.237.31]:60304) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MF9yW-0003oe-No for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:51:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Configuration vs. compat hints [was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities] From: Mark McLoughlin In-Reply-To: <4A327E87.6080005@codemonkey.ws> References: <20090610145540.GI19375@poweredge.glommer> <20090610150129.GC28601@redhat.com> <200906101624.30659.paul@codesourcery.com> <20090610174301.GC7416@shareable.org> <20090610182227.GN28601@redhat.com> <20090610192702.GH7416@shareable.org> <1244796209.16425.20.camel@blaa> <4A326C7E.3020309@codemonkey.ws> <1244822007.30522.68.camel@blaa> <4A327E87.6080005@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:48:53 +0100 Message-Id: <1244825333.26769.20.camel@blaa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: Mark McLoughlin List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Carsten Otte , kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Glauber Costa , Rusty Russell , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Blue Swirl , Christian Borntraeger , Paul Brook , Avi Kivity On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 11:12 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 09:55 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > >> Mark McLoughlin wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 20:27 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > >>> > >>> = Solution - Separate configuration from compat hints = > >>> > >>> As I suggested before: > >>> > >>> - Allow the VM manager to dump compat hints; this would be an opaque > >>> file format, more like the savevm format than a config file > >>> > >>> > >> How is compat hints different from a device tree? > >> > >> In my mind, that's what compat hints is. I don't see another sane way > >> to implement it. > >> > > > > A device tree with a different purpose than a config file. > > > > In its simplest form it could be a device tree with a version number for > > each device[1]. > > > > I think the point is that you don't need version numbers if you have a > proper device tree. How do you add a new attribute to the device tree and, when a supplied device tree lacking said attribute, distinguish between a device tree from an old version of qemu (i.e. use the old default) and a partial device tree from the VM manager (i.e. use the new default) ? > NB the device tree contains no host configuration information. So, it wouldn't e.g. include the path to the image file for a block device? That would always be specified on the command line? Cheers, Mark.