From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MyB73-0003Z9-Dq for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MyB6y-0003UG-5s for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48144 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MyB6y-0003U5-3Y for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10:20 -0400 Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.138]:60962) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MyB6x-0002aK-OX for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10:19 -0400 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by e8.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9EH7Eb0007359 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:07:14 -0400 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id n9ELA6ON247610 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10:06 -0400 Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n9ELA5RY008968 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:10:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0 From: Sridhar Samudrala In-Reply-To: <20091014155018.GB30179@redhat.com> References: <4AC29E4D.80707@us.ibm.com> <200910081555.40897.jens@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <4ACDF550.1020502@codemonkey.ws> <20091014132154.GA29037@redhat.com> <4AD5DD6B.2030703@codemonkey.ws> <20091014142453.GA29798@redhat.com> <20091014151917.GB17062@shareable.org> <20091014155018.GB30179@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:10:00 -0700 Message-Id: <1255554600.20366.9.camel@w-sridhar.beaverton.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Cc: Anthony Liguori , kvm-devel , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paul Brook , Jens Osterkamp On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 17:50 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 04:19:17PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > > > Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > >> Looks like Or has abandoned it. I have an updated version which works > > > >> with new APIs, etc. Let me post it and we'll go from there. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> I'm generally inclined to oppose the functionality as I don't think > > > >>> it offers any advantages over the existing backends. > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> I patch it in and use it all the time. It's much easier to setup > > > >> on a random machine than a bridged config. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Having two things that do the same thing is just going to lead to user > > > > confusion. > > > > > > They do not do the same thing. With raw socket you can use windows > > > update without a bridge in the host, with tap you can't. > > > > On the other hand, with raw socket, guest Windows can't access files > > on the host's Samba share can it? So it's not that useful even for > > Windows guests. > > I guess this depends on whether you use the same host for samba :) > > > > > If the problem is tap is too hard to setup, we should try to > > > > simplify tap configuration. > > > > > > The problem is bridge is too hard to setup. > > > Simplifying that is a good idea, but outside the scope > > > of the qemu project. > > > > I venture it's important enough for qemu that it's worth working on > > that. Something that looks like the raw socket but behaves like an > > automatically instantiated bridge attached to the bound interface > > would be a useful interface. > > I agree, that would be good to have. Can't we bind the raw socket to the tap interface instead of the physical interface and allow the bridge config to work. Thanks Sridhar > > > I don't have much time, but I'll help anybody who wants to do that. > > > > -- Jamie > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html