From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: "chrisw@redhat.com" <chrisw@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
"kraxel@redhat.com" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"avi@redhat.com" <avi@redhat.com>,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] qdev: Create qdev_get_dev_path()
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:35:43 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1276540543.12015.353.camel@x201> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C165DA5.70105@siemens.com>
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 18:49 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 18:00 +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >> And instead of introducing another hierarchy level with the bus address,
> >> I would also prefer to add this as prefix or suffix to the device name,
> >> e.g. <driver>.<busaddr>.
> >
> > That's what I had started with. The first post in this thread has
> > "pci.0,addr=09.0" as a single hierarchy level. The "addr=" may be
> > unnecessary there, but I also prefer something along those lines. For
> > PCI it'd make sense to have <name>:<addr>, which comes out to
> > "pci.0:09.0". (Maybe rather than flagging properties as being relevant
> > to the path and printing them generically, we should extract specific
> > properties based on the bus type.)
>
> Not bus.addr, driver.addr. We only have one PCI bus here, not as many as
> there are slots on that bus.
Ok, I can get it down to something like:
/i440FX-pcihost/pci.0/virtio-blk-pci,09.0
The addr on the device is initially a little non-intuitive to me since
it's a property of the bus, but I guess it make sense if we think of
that level as slot, which includes an address and driver.
> >>>> For busses that don't have a consistent addressing scheme then some sort of
> >>>> instance ID is unavoidable. I guess it may be possible to invent something
> >>>> based on other device properties (e.g. address of the first IO port/memory
> >>>> region).
> >>> Instance IDs aren't always bad, we just run into trouble with hotplug
> >>> and maybe creating unique ramblock names. But, such busses typically
> >>> don't support hotplug and don't have multiple instances of the same
> >>> device on the bus, so I don't expect us to hit many issues there as long
> >>> as we can get a stable address path. Thanks,
> >>>
> >> If stable instance numbers are required, we could simply keep them in
> >> DeviceState and search for the smallest free one on additions. Actually,
> >> I'm more in favor of this direction than including the bus address. That
> >> way we could keep a canonical format across all buses and do not have to
> >> provide possibly complex ID generation rules for each of them.
> >
> > I started down that path, but it still breaks for hotplug. If we start
> > a VM with two e1000 NICs, then remove the first, we can no longer
> > migrate because the target can't represent having a single e1000 with a
> > non-zero instance ID.
>
> That's indeed a good point.
>
> Still, I'm worried about having to define numbering schemes for all the
> buses qemu supports. Maybe we can run a mixture: address-based for
> hotplug-capably buses (they tend to be cooperative in this regard) and
> simple instance numbers for the rest, likely the majority.
Yep, I share that concern, which is I say instance numbers aren't always
bad. If we have devices that we don't care about doing hotplug on, we
can live with instance numbers. Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-14 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-14 5:51 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce canonical device hierarchy string Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] qdev: Create qdev_get_dev_path() Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 6:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-14 12:52 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 13:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-14 13:09 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-14 15:29 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 15:42 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-14 16:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-14 16:38 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 16:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-14 18:35 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2010-06-14 21:43 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-14 22:11 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 22:46 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 1:14 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 11:24 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 8:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 9:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 11:28 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 11:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 12:04 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 12:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 12:39 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 13:00 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 13:14 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 13:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 13:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 20:53 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 21:55 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 22:33 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 23:01 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 23:10 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 0:25 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-16 0:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 0:35 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-16 1:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 2:55 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 8:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-17 22:25 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-18 9:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-18 15:01 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-18 15:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-18 14:03 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-18 14:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-18 15:21 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 11:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 11:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-15 13:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 13:19 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 13:32 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-15 15:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 13:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/5] savevm: Add DeviceState param Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/5] savevm: Make use of the new " Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/5] eepro100: Add a dev field to eeprom new/free functions Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 5:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-net: Incorporate a DeviceState pointer and let savevm track instances Alex Williamson
2010-06-14 7:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce canonical device hierarchy string Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-14 19:56 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-15 8:53 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 18:01 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 8:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-16 8:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-15 9:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-15 18:03 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-16 9:46 ` RFC qdev path semantics (was: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/5] Introduce canonical device hierarchy string) Markus Armbruster
2010-06-16 10:40 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: RFC qdev path semantics Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 11:45 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 12:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 12:21 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 13:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-06-16 13:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-16 13:23 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-16 14:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-17 21:43 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-17 22:01 ` Paul Brook
2010-06-17 22:34 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-18 7:52 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-06-18 14:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-06-22 14:27 ` Anthony Liguori
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