From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org List" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
anton@samba.org, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 15/15] Implement the bus structure for PAPR virtual IO
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:19:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1297621174.14982.659.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D580B79.3090603@codemonkey.ws>
On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 10:48 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> We try very, very hard to make our paravirtualization look like real
> hardware.
Sure, that makes sense when you invent new paravirt interfaces, but that
isn't the case. Note also that our current processors do not have the
ability to emulate MMIOs in all cases, ie, when doing "real" KVM in HV
mode, we cannot trap MMIO unless we redirect all page faults to the
hypervisor, which comes at a cost.
> When the paravirtualization interfaces are already defined, we have no
> choice in supporting those interfaces although sometimes we try to
> push that to firmware (like with Xenner). It's better from a
> security PoV.
>
> But in this case, we have no choice but to implement the
> paravirtualization interfaces in QEMU because of the way the hardware
> works and because these interfaces are already well defined.
Right.
Now, in the long run, we might decide to "reflect" some of these back
into some guest co-located FW or whatever of that kind, especially if we
get to a point where linux virt-io becomes more prevalent and the sPAPR
style IOs become purely legacy backward compat stubs, but we aren't
there yet.
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-13 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-12 14:54 [Qemu-devel] RFC: Implement emulation of pSeries logical partitions David Gibson
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] Add TAGS and *~ to .gitignore David Gibson
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] Clean up PowerPC SLB handling code David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] Allow qemu_devtree_setprop() to take arbitrary values David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] Add a hook to allow hypercalls to be emulated on PowerPC David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] Implement PowerPC slbmfee and slbmfev instructions David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 12:46 ` David Gibson
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] Implement missing parts of the logic for the POWER PURR David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] Correct ppc popcntb logic, implement popcntw and popcntd David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] Clean up slb_lookup() function David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] Parse SDR1 on mtspr instead of at translate time David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 9:02 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 12:33 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 12:52 ` David Gibson
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] Use "hash" more consistently in ppc mmu code David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] Better factor the ppc hash translation path David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] Support 1T segments on ppc David Gibson
2011-02-12 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 9:34 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 12:37 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 13:38 ` David Gibson
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] Add POWER7 support for ppc David Gibson
2011-02-12 16:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 9:39 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 12:37 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] Start implementing pSeries logical partition machine David Gibson
2011-02-12 16:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 16:40 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-12 20:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-12 14:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] Implement the bus structure for PAPR virtual IO David Gibson
2011-02-12 16:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-12 16:59 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-12 21:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-12 22:52 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-12 23:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-13 8:08 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 11:12 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 12:15 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 16:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-13 15:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 15:56 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 16:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 18:29 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 19:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 23:33 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 23:30 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 12:31 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 12:59 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 16:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-13 16:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 18:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2011-02-13 11:14 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 12:40 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 12:44 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 13:09 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 15:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 16:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-13 16:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 18:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-02-13 11:09 ` David Gibson
2011-02-13 12:38 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 4:16 ` [Qemu-devel] RFC: Implement emulation of pSeries logical partitions FUJITA Tomonori
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