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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: aafabbri <aafabbri@cisco.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <pmac@au1.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, chrisw <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	benve@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:35:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312310121.2653.470.camel@bling.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312308847.2653.467.camel@bling.home>

On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 12:14 -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 18:28 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:20:08PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 09:58 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > On x86, the USB controllers don't typically live behind a PCIe-to-PCI
> > > bridge, so don't suffer the source identifier problem, but they do often
> > > share an interrupt.  But even then, we can count on most modern devices
> > > supporting PCI2.3, and thus the DisINTx feature, which allows us to
> > > share interrupts.  In any case, yes, it's more rare but we need to know
> > > how to handle devices behind PCI bridges.  However I disagree that we
> > > need to assign all the devices behind such a bridge to the guest.
> > > There's a difference between removing the device from the host and
> > > exposing the device to the guest.
> > 
> > I think you're arguing only over details of what words to use for
> > what, rather than anything of substance here.  The point is that an
> > entire partitionable group must be assigned to "host" (in which case
> > kernel drivers may bind to it) or to a particular guest partition (or
> > at least to a single UID on the host).  Which of the assigned devices
> > the partition actually uses is another matter of course, as is at
> > exactly which level they become "de-exposed" if you don't want to use
> > all of then.
> 
> Well first we need to define what a partitionable group is, whether it's
> based on hardware requirements or user policy.  And while I agree that
> we need unique ownership of a partition, I disagree that qemu is
> necessarily the owner of the entire partition vs individual devices.

Sorry, I didn't intend to have such circular logic.  "... I disagree
that qemu is necessarily the owner of the entire partition vs granted
access to devices within the partition".  Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-02 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1311983933.8793.42.camel@pasglop>
2011-07-30 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 23:54   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-01 18:59     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02  2:00       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02  8:28   ` David Gibson
2011-08-02 18:14     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35       ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2011-08-03  2:04         ` David Gibson
2011-08-03  3:44           ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-04  0:39             ` David Gibson
2011-08-08  8:28           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-09 23:24             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-10  2:48               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-20 16:51                 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22  5:55                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-22 15:45                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 21:01                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 19:30                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24  3:40                             ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 14:47                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24  8:43                           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 14:56                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 11:01                               ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23  2:38                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-23 16:23                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:41                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24  3:36                             ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-22  6:30                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:46                     ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:51                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:36                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:42                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:55                             ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:06                               ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:15                                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:17                                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 14:37                                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:53                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 17:25                   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 19:17                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 13:14                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 17:08                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24  8:52                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 15:07                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 12:31                               ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 13:25                                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26  4:24                                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-26  9:24                                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-28 13:14                                       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:56                                         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 14:04                                           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-30 16:14                                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 21:03                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 13:18                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 23:35                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24  8:53                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:29                   ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:49                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:38                       ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:49                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23  0:52                           ` aafabbri
2011-08-23  6:54                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 11:09                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 17:01                               ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:33                                 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 18:01                                   ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24  9:10                                   ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 21:13                                     ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 10:54                                       ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 15:38                                         ` Don Dutile
2011-08-25 16:46                                           ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 17:20                                         ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 18:05                                           ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 18:04                                             ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-30 16:13                                               ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 16:54                               ` aafabbri
2011-08-24  9:14                                 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24  9:33                                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-24 11:03                                     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26  4:20                                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-26  9:33                                         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 14:07                                           ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:24                                             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:29                                               ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 17:52                                             ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 19:35                                               ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 20:17                                                 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 21:06                                                   ` Chris Wright
2011-08-30  1:29                                                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 10:35   ` Joerg Roedel

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