From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>
Cc: aafabbri <aafabbri@cisco.com>,
Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@au1.ibm.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <pmac@au1.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, chrisw <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
iommu <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
benve@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:35:19 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312310121.2653.470.camel@bling.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1312308847.2653.467.camel@bling.home>
On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 12:14 -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-08-02 at 18:28 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:20:08PM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 09:58 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > On x86, the USB controllers don't typically live behind a PCIe-to-PCI
> > > bridge, so don't suffer the source identifier problem, but they do often
> > > share an interrupt. But even then, we can count on most modern devices
> > > supporting PCI2.3, and thus the DisINTx feature, which allows us to
> > > share interrupts. In any case, yes, it's more rare but we need to know
> > > how to handle devices behind PCI bridges. However I disagree that we
> > > need to assign all the devices behind such a bridge to the guest.
> > > There's a difference between removing the device from the host and
> > > exposing the device to the guest.
> >
> > I think you're arguing only over details of what words to use for
> > what, rather than anything of substance here. The point is that an
> > entire partitionable group must be assigned to "host" (in which case
> > kernel drivers may bind to it) or to a particular guest partition (or
> > at least to a single UID on the host). Which of the assigned devices
> > the partition actually uses is another matter of course, as is at
> > exactly which level they become "de-exposed" if you don't want to use
> > all of then.
>
> Well first we need to define what a partitionable group is, whether it's
> based on hardware requirements or user policy. And while I agree that
> we need unique ownership of a partition, I disagree that qemu is
> necessarily the owner of the entire partition vs individual devices.
Sorry, I didn't intend to have such circular logic. "... I disagree
that qemu is necessarily the owner of the entire partition vs granted
access to devices within the partition". Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-02 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2011-07-30 18:20 ` [Qemu-devel] kvm PCI assignment & VFIO ramblings Alex Williamson
2011-07-30 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-01 18:59 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-07-30 23:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-02 8:28 ` David Gibson
2011-08-02 18:14 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-02 18:35 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2011-08-03 2:04 ` David Gibson
2011-08-03 3:44 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-04 0:39 ` David Gibson
2011-08-08 8:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-09 23:24 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-10 2:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-20 16:51 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 5:55 ` David Gibson
2011-08-22 15:45 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-22 21:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 19:30 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 3:40 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-24 14:47 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 8:43 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 14:56 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 11:01 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 2:38 ` David Gibson
2011-08-23 16:23 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 23:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 3:36 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-22 6:30 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 10:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 10:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:36 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 12:42 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 12:55 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:06 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 13:15 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 13:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-22 14:37 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 17:25 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 19:17 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 13:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 17:08 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 8:52 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 15:07 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 12:31 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 13:25 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 4:24 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 9:24 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-28 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 13:56 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-28 14:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-30 16:14 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-22 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 13:18 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-23 23:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-24 8:53 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-22 20:29 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 20:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-22 21:38 ` aafabbri
2011-08-22 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 0:52 ` aafabbri
2011-08-23 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-08-23 11:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 17:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-23 18:01 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-24 9:10 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-24 21:13 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 10:54 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 15:38 ` Don Dutile
2011-08-25 16:46 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-25 17:20 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-25 18:05 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 18:04 ` Alex Williamson
2011-08-30 16:13 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 11:04 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-23 16:54 ` aafabbri
2011-08-24 9:14 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-24 9:33 ` David Gibson
2011-08-24 11:03 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 4:20 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 9:33 ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-08-26 14:07 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 15:24 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-08-26 15:29 ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-26 17:52 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 19:35 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-26 20:17 ` Aaron Fabbri
2011-08-26 21:06 ` Chris Wright
2011-08-30 1:29 ` David Gibson
2011-08-04 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
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