From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:08:44 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1337123324.6727.101.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB2D291.1050003@codemonkey.ws>
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 17:02 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> "6.2.1 Register Based Invalidation Interface
> The register based invalidations provides a synchronous hardware interface for
> invalidations. Software is expected to write to the IOTLB registers to submit
> invalidation command and may poll on these registers to check for invalidation
> completion. For optimal performance, hardware implementations are recommended to
> complete an invalidation request with minimal latency"
>
> This makes perfect sense. You write to an MMIO location to request invalidation
> and then *poll* on a separate register for completion.
>
> It's not a single MMIO operation that has an indefinitely return duration.
Sure, it's an implementation detail, I never meant that it had to be a
single blocking register access, all I said is that the HW must provide
such a mechanism that is typically used synchronously by the operating
system. Polling for completion is a perfectly legit way to do it, that's
how we do it on the Apple G5 "DART" iommu as well.
The fact that MMIO operations can block is orthogonal, it is possible
however, especially with ancient PIO devices.
In our case (TCEs) it's a hypervisor call, not an MMIO op, so to some
extent it's even more likely to do "blocking" things.
It would have been possible to implement a "busy" return status with the
guest having to try again, unfortunately that's not how Linux has
implemented it, so we are stuck with the current semantics.
Now, if you think that dropping the lock isn't good, what do you reckon
I should do ?
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-15 23:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-10 4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:23 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:42 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 2:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 2:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 3:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2012-05-15 23:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 0:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 0:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 1:44 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 4:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 5:51 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 2:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17 2:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18 1:04 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 1:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 3:35 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 6:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 8:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18 8:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19 7:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-20 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 8:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 8:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 9:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 5:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 0:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:19 ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 7:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-19 6:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] iommu series Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-19 6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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