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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Peter Crosthwaite" <peter.crosthwaite@petalogix.com>,
	"Michal Simek" <monstr@monstr.eu>, "Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>,
	"Anthony Liguori" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"John Williams" <john.williams@petalogix.com>,
	"Paul Brook" <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QOMification of AXI streams
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:43:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1339645439.9220.152.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120614031723.GC29384@zapo>

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 05:17 +0200, Edgar E. Iglesias wrote:

> The CPU's MMU is a CPU local thing, it can be ignored in this context...
> 
> Anyway, I might very well be missing or missunderstganding something so
> I'm not claiming I'm having the absolute "thruth" here but it seems to me
> like implementing device accesses bottom-up or "upstream", is something
> that is extremely rare (to put it mildely), something that is unnecessary
> unless we __really__ need it.

Well, I'm happy to stick with my existing DMAContext patches that take
care of most of the requirement so here I'm siding with you :-)

As for the "extremely rare" I don't know ... technically speaking
anything with PCI qualifies. However we only rarely get into a situation
where we need that level of correctness in the model, because the lack
of a "proper" model in this case will probably only affect peer to peer
DMAs which are fairly rare and only when such peer to peer DMA is itself
done in a system with funky remapping and/or iommu...

That's why I'd like for 1.2 to simply use the existing DMAContext/iommu
proposal, however, in order to avoid having to change the devices
if/when something "better" is implemented, I'll provide "accessors" at
least for PCI (feel free to do accessors for AXI etc... as well if you
wish) so that the accessors themselves can be changed if needed without
impacting all the users.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-14  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-08  4:23 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QOMification of AXI stream Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-08  9:13 ` Paul Brook
2012-06-08  9:34   ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-08 13:13     ` Paul Brook
2012-06-08 13:39       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-08 13:59         ` Paul Brook
2012-06-08 14:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-08 13:41   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-08 13:53     ` Paul Brook
2012-06-08 13:55     ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-08  9:45 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-09  1:53   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-09  2:12     ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-09  3:28       ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-11  5:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-11 13:05         ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 13:17         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 13:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-08 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-09  1:24   ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-11 13:15     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 13:39       ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 14:38         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-11 14:53           ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 14:58             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-11 15:03             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 15:34               ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-11 15:56               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-12  0:33                 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-12  7:58                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-14  1:01                     ` Peter Crosthwaite
2012-06-11 15:01         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 17:31           ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-11 18:35             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 22:00               ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QOMification of AXI streams Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-11 22:29                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-11 23:46                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-12  1:33                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-12  2:06                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-12  9:46                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-13  0:37                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-13 20:57                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-13 21:25                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-14  0:00                       ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-14  1:34                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-14  2:03                           ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-14  2:16                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-14  2:31                               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-14  2:41                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-14  3:17                                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-14  3:43                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2012-06-14  5:16                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-12  1:04                 ` Andreas Färber
2012-06-12  2:42                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-12  9:31               ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QOMification of AXI stream Avi Kivity
2012-06-12  9:42                 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2012-06-11 18:36             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-06-12  9:51               ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-12 12:58             ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-12 13:18               ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-12 13:32                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-06-12 13:48                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-12 13:55                   ` Andreas Färber

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