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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:07:15 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1344319635.2698.14.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5020A800.9010902@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:30 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On 08/06/12 23:16, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 15:20 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> >> There are discussions about re-doing the guest/host interface (command
> >> rings etc) now and then, by adding a qxl2 device (or maybe even extend
> >> stdvga), dropping a bunch of backward compatibility stuff in qxl.c.
> >>
> >> Sending the spice commands over virtio is certainly an option here.
> >> I'm
> >> not sure it is possible to drive virtio rings from userspace (Xorg
> >> driver), but that issue should go away with the qxl kms driver in the
> >> works.
> > 
> > Anything that gets rid of the qxl memory region API is welcome ;-) Some
> > of that stuff is really gross.
> 
> Well, it is needed for sanity checking memory references (to images etc)
> in qxl commands, so we can't just zap it.  But having a kms driver in
> kernel space makes things easier again:  You could simply register a
> single memory region for the guest ram, then basically use guest
> physical addresses for qxl memory references.  qxl commands & data can
> live in guest ram and you can stick references to the commands into
> virtio rings ...

Or you use a sane model in the first place that hides memory references
behind object IDs :-) Yes, going via a KMS driver will go a long way
toward fixing some of that.

I would still like to experiment a bit if time permits with a different
model which is basically GL paravirt via a virtio channel on top of
virtio-vga (possibly limited to GL/ES at least initially).

Guest side, we'd then have a simple DRM and use Glamor to turn all 2D
rendering into GL.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-07  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-30  6:24 [Qemu-devel] Cirrus bugs vs endian: how two bugs cancel each other out Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 11:20   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:25     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 11:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 11:58         ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:08           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 12:15             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 12:23               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-30 16:24             ` Alon Levy
2012-07-30 20:19               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 22:24               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31  8:10                 ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 14:35                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-06 12:57             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 13:18           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:30             ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 13:45               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 13:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 14:29                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 14:36                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-30 16:01                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-30 23:47                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-07-31  3:16                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 14:02                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:13                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-01 23:29                         ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-06 13:47                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 14:35                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31  8:20                     ` Alon Levy
2012-07-30 22:15                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-07-31  0:17                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-07-31  3:26                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-06 13:20             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-06 21:16               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-08-07  5:30                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07  6:07                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2012-07-30 16:19         ` Alon Levy
2012-08-01 15:42           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 19:22             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-03  6:45               ` Alon Levy
2012-08-03 13:41                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-07  7:00                   ` Alon Levy
2012-08-07  8:01                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 13:05                       ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-07 14:07                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-07 19:43                           ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-08  6:18                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-08-08 14:14                               ` Erlon Cruz
2012-08-09  6:17                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-07-30 15:18 ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-30 15:30   ` Peter Maydell
2012-07-30 15:44     ` Blue Swirl
2012-07-31  8:44 ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-07-31 10:30   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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