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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	seabios@seabios.org,
	qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
	ddutile@redhat.com, Jordan Justen <jljusten@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2013-05-28
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 17:33:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1370018019.5141.104.camel@i7.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mwrbqhn1.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

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On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 10:43 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> It's even more fundamental.  OVMF as a whole (at least in it's usable
> form) is not Open Source. 

The FAT module is required to make EDK2 usable, and yes, that's not Open
Source. So in a sense you're right.

But we're talking here about *replacing* the FAT module with something
that *is* open source. And the FAT module isn't a fundamental part of
EDK2; it's just an optional module that happens to be bundled with the
repository.

So I think you're massively overstating the issue. OVMF/EDK2 *is* Open
Source, and replacing the FAT module really isn't that hard.

We can only bury our heads in the sand and ship qemu with
non-EFI-capable firmware for so long...

I *know* there's more work to be done. We have SeaBIOS-as-CSM, Jordan
has mostly sorted out the NV variable storage, and now the FAT issue is
coming up to the top of the pile. But we aren't far from the point where
we can realistically say that we want the Open Source OVMF to be the
default firmware shipped with qemu.

-- 
dwmw2

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-31 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-23 12:41 [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2013-05-28 Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-24  3:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " li guang
2013-05-28 23:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-29  8:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:12     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  6:37       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-02 15:05     ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 15:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-02 15:40         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-02 15:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03  6:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29  8:49   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-29  9:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29  9:42       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-29  9:46         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:18     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 16:35       ` Markus Armbruster
2013-05-30  1:12       ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31 12:16         ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30  6:12       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-30  9:23       ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30 11:13         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 12:19           ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-30 12:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 12:43             ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 16:20             ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-30 16:41               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 16:57                 ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-30 17:37                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-30 17:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31  9:32                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-31  9:55                   ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-31 23:01                   ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-03  5:28                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-30 17:44               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31 12:09               ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 19:48                 ` Patrick Georgi
2013-05-29  9:54   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-31  2:34   ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31  7:09     ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31  8:13       ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-31 10:05         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-05-31 13:03         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-01  3:41         ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-05-31 11:45       ` [Qemu-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 13:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 14:08           ` David Woodhouse
2013-05-31 14:28             ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 15:43             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:33               ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2013-05-31 16:54                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 17:06                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 18:09                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-31 18:35                     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 19:28                       ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 20:44                         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:45               ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]           ` <51A8AD52.3070901@redhat.com>
2013-05-31 14:38             ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 16:36               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-31 17:10                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 19:02               ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 20:27                 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 21:03                   ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-01  0:01                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-06-01  3:16                       ` Jordan Justen
2013-06-02  9:43         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03  7:24           ` Jordan Justen
2013-05-31 12:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-31 13:02       ` David Woodhouse
2013-06-01  3:11       ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-02  9:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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