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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, aurel@aurel32.net,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH] target-ppc: Change default machine for 64-bit
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:44:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1371149061.2028.18@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878v2d276z.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (from aliguori@us.ibm.com on Thu Jun 13 13:31:48 2013)

On 06/13/2013 01:31:48 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> writes:
> 
> > On 17.05.2013, at 09:42, Andreas Färber wrote:
> >
> >> Am 17.05.2013 06:25, schrieb David Gibson:
> >>> Currently, for qemu-system-ppc64, the default machine type is  
> 'mac99'.
> >>> Since the mac99 machine is not being actively maintained, and  
> shows quite
> >>> a few signs of bitrot,
> >>
> >> Please be more specific than making such general claims in a commit
> >> message! As the default machine it certainly compiles, so where  
> are you
> >> seeing bitrot? The DEC bridge cleanup that I once started kind of
> >> depends on the PCI cleanup you recently looked into.
> >
> > The mac99 machine for 64bit is actually worse than anything bitrot
> > could give you. It emulates a machine that in its form never  
> possibly
> > could have existed in real hardware, which makes it very fragile and
> > dependent on the guest's mercy to handle this gracefully.
> 
> I'll note that we have a CONFIG_PSERIES today.  I'd suggest getting  
> rid
> of it first before making pseries the default.

Why?  As long as it's present in the default ppc64 build, you'll have a  
default machine.  If a user makes a custom config without it,  
presumably they know they want to run some other machine, so why do you  
need a default?

QEMU has too much mandatory stuff as is.

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-13 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-17  4:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-ppc: Change default machine for 64-bit David Gibson
2013-05-17  4:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-05-17  5:17   ` David Gibson
2013-05-17  7:17     ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-17  7:22     ` Alexander Graf
2013-05-17  7:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-05-17  8:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-13 13:49   ` Alexander Graf
2013-06-13 18:31     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-13 18:44       ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-06-13 19:02         ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-13 20:44           ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-14 16:15           ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-14 14:28     ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-14 21:58       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-16 10:20       ` David Gibson

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