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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: agraf@suse.de, alex.williamson@redhat.com, seabios@seabios.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
	"Gabriel L. Somlo" <gsomlo@gmail.com>,
	imammedo@redhat.com, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] E820 (Re: [v4 PATCH 00/12] SMBIOS: build full tables in QEMU)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 17:04:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1396451097.31715.20.camel@nilsson.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140401202832.GA24065@morn.localdomain>

  Hi,

> > From the conversation so far, it seems to me that:
> > 
> > 	- type 0 is best left to the BIOS (user overrides via
> > 	  command line at their own risk)

I think it was a bad idea to allow overriding type0 fields in the first
place.  It also isn't used in practice.  I don't think it is a big
problem to loose that capability.

> > 	- therefore, the maximum granularity of QEMU-generated
> > 	  elements should be full tables of a given type, and
> > 	  not the full SMBIOS blob at once (other mechanisms to
> > 	  allow the BIOS to insert its own type 0 welcome, but
> > 	  so far this seems the most straightforward one).

Just an idea:  Is the table ordering important?  I don't think so.  If
qemu supplies a blob with all tables except type0, can the firmware
simply append a type0 record to the blob supplied by qemu?

> I don't agree - I think ultimately we want QEMU to generate the full
> SMBIOS table and pass it to the firmware via the romfile_loader
> mechanism.

I still think the firmware (and *only* the firmware) should supply the
type0 table.  I also think seabios should fill in something more
sensible in there, such as "Vendor: SeaBIOS" and "Version:
rel-1.7.4-0-g96917a8-...".

> The only thing that has been raised as an issue with this
> is one bit in the smbios table (UEFI support).

IMO 'dmidecode -t0' should show what firmware you are running
(seabios/ovmf/coreboot/whatever), not something made up by qemu.

cheers,
  Gerd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-02 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-18 23:23 [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 00/12] SMBIOS: build full tables in QEMU Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 01/12] SMBIOS: Rename smbios_set_type1_defaults() for more general use Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 02/12] SMBIOS: Use macro to set smbios defaults Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 03/12] SMBIOS: Use bitmaps to check for smbios table collisions Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 04/12] SMBIOS: Add code to build full smbios tables; build type 2 table Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 05/12] SMBIOS: Build full tables for types 0 and 1 Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 06/12] SMBIOS: Remove unused code for passing individual fields to bios Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 07/12] SMBIOS: Build full type 3 table Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 08/12] SMBIOS: Build full type 4 tables Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 09/12] SMBIOS: Build full smbios memory tables (type 16, 17, 19, and 20) Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 10/12] SMBIOS: Build full tables for type 32 and 127 Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 11/12] SMBIOS: Update all table definitions to smbios spec v2.3 Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-18 23:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [v4 PATCH 12/12] SMBIOS: Remove SeaBIOS compatibility quirks Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-26 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] E820 (Re: [v4 PATCH 00/12] SMBIOS: build full tables in QEMU) Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-26 22:36   ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-03-31 20:18     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-01  8:40       ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-01 14:39         ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-01 15:47           ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-01 18:47             ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-01 20:28               ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-01 21:28                 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-01 21:44                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-01 22:00                     ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-01 22:35                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-02 12:38                         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-02 13:39                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-05  2:48                         ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-02 15:07                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-04-02 17:01                       ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-03  1:57                         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-03  9:42                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-03 13:32                             ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-03 13:56                               ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-07  6:50                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-04-07  6:47                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-04-01 21:48                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-02 15:04                 ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2014-04-05  0:34                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-05  1:15                     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-05  2:26                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-07  7:09                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-04-07 14:14                           ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-07 14:33                             ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-04-07 14:49                             ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-07 15:23                               ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-07 18:05                                 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-04-07 18:57                                   ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-04-08 13:51                                     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-27  2:45   ` Gabriel L. Somlo

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