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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	dbarboza@redhat.com, "Alexey Kardashevskiy" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>, "Alexander Graf" <agraf@csgraf.de>,
	qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>, "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 16:18:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1397f18f-f187-6f48-ed6c-13c0b77abed9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42e5a8c2-b8fa-b9e2-71f1-c8e5cd7f5cef@csgroup.eu>

On 01/10/2021 15.04, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 01/10/2021 à 14:04, Thomas Huth a écrit :
>> On 01/10/2021 13.12, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 10:43, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> Nevertheless, as long as nobody has a hint where to find that
>>>> ppc405_rom.bin, I think both boards are pretty useless in QEMU (as far as I
>>>> can see, they do not work without the bios at all, so it's also not 
>>>> possible
>>>> to use a Linux image with the "-kernel" CLI option directly).
>>>
>>> It is at least in theory possible to run bare-metal code on
>>> either board, by passing either a pflash or a bios argument.
>>
>> True. I did some more research, and seems like there was once support for 
>> those boards in u-boot, but it got removed there a couple of years ago 
>> already:
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/u-boot/-/commit/98f705c9cefdf
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/u-boot/-/commit/b147ff2f37d5b
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/u-boot/-/commit/7514037bcdc37
>>
>>> But I agree that there seem to be no signs of anybody actually
>>> successfully using these boards for anything, so we should
>>> deprecate-and-delete them.
>>
>> Yes, let's mark them as deprecated now ... if someone still uses them and 
>> speaks up, we can still revert the deprecation again.
> 
> I really would like to be able to use them to validate Linux Kernel changes, 
> hence looking for that missing BIOS.
> 
> If we remove ppc405 from QEMU, we won't be able to do any regression tests 
> of Linux Kernel on those processors.

If you/someone managed to compile an old version of u-boot for one of these 
two boards, so that we would finally have something for regression testing, 
we can of course also keep the boards in QEMU...

  Thomas



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-01 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-27  4:48 [PATCH v3 0/7] Reduce load on ppc target maintainers David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] qemu: Split machine_ppc.py acceptance tests David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-27 16:44   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-27 16:53     ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-27 17:18       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] MAINTAINERS: Remove machine specific files from ppc TCG CPUs entry David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] MAINTAINERS: Remove David & Greg as reviewers for a number of boards David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms David Gibson
2021-10-01  8:35   ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) Thomas Huth
2021-10-01  9:14     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-01  9:43       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-01 11:12         ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-01 12:04           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-01 13:04             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-01 13:14               ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-01 13:24               ` Peter Maydell
2021-10-01 14:18               ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2021-10-05  0:48                 ` David Gibson
2021-10-05  4:44                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-05  6:18                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-10-05  6:42                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-05  8:05                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-10-05  8:07                           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-05  8:51                             ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Thomas Huth
2021-10-05 12:17                               ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-05 12:35                                 ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-05 21:53                                   ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-06  6:39                                     ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-06  7:25                                     ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-11  8:10                                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-11  9:20                                         ` David Gibson
2021-10-11 13:24                                           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-19  9:31                                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19  9:39                                               ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-19  9:48                                                 ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 10:07                                                   ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19 11:11                                                     ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-19 11:51                                                       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 12:38                                                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19 13:44                                                           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 14:24                                                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 14:56                                                               ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19 16:12                                                                 ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-19 20:55                                                                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-19 21:30                                                                   ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20  9:02                                                                     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-20 10:10                                                                       ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 13:27                                                                         ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 14:31                                                                           ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 14:34                                                                             ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 14:41                                                                               ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 15:03                                                                                 ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 14:39                                                                           ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 15:28                                                                             ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 10:21                                                       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-20 11:40                                                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 10:12                                                     ` CLI: Using -bios AND -kernel Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-20 10:54                                                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 11:35                                                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-19  9:41                                               ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Greg Kurz
2021-10-05  8:14                       ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-05 12:20                         ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-05 12:29                           ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 10:26                             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-20 11:42                               ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 12:43                                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-20 13:16                                   ` LEROY Christophe
2021-10-20 15:04                                     ` Simon Marchi
2021-10-21  6:48                                     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-21  7:25                                       ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Thomas Huth
2021-10-21  8:01                                         ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-28 12:24                                     ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) Luis Machado
2021-10-28 17:27                                       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-20 13:35                                   ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 14:55                                     ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-20 15:04                                       ` Thomas Huth
2021-10-20 14:16                                   ` Deprecate the ppc405 boards in QEMU? (was: [PATCH v3 4/7] MAINTAINERS: Orphan obscure ppc platforms) BALATON Zoltan
2021-10-05  8:49                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-05 16:15                       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-05 16:20                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-10-27  4:06                           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27  8:40                             ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-10-27 10:42                               ` Christophe Leroy
2021-10-27 10:48                                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-10-27 17:03                                 ` Cédric Le Goater
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] MAINTAINERS: Remove David & Greg as reviewers/co-maintainers of powernv David Gibson
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] MAINTAINERS: Add information for OpenPIC David Gibson
2021-09-29  7:08   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-09-27  4:48 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] MAINTAINERS: Demote sPAPR from "Supported" to "Maintained" David Gibson
2021-09-30  1:15 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Reduce load on ppc target maintainers David Gibson
2021-10-06  9:52   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2021-10-06 11:03     ` Greg Kurz

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