* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM @ 2014-11-27 11:45 Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] balloon: call qdev_alias_all_properties for proxy dev in balloon class init Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Denis V. Lunev, Michael S. Tsirkin, qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory killer to run. This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit is set on the device. It is off by default. This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in linux-next at the moment) commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. Changes from v1: - From: in patch 1 according to the original ownership - feature processing in patch 2 as suggested by Michael. It could be done without additional field, but this will require to move the property level up, i.e. to PCI & CCW level. Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] balloon: call qdev_alias_all_properties for proxy dev in balloon class init 2014-11-27 11:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 11:45 ` Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Raushaniya Maksudova, Michael S. Tsirkin, qemu-devel, Christian Borntraeger, Anthony Liguori, Denis V. Lunev The idea is that all other virtio devices are calling this helper to merge properties of the proxy device. This is the only difference in between this helper and code in inside virtio_instance_init_common. The patch should not cause any harm as property list in generic balloon code is empty. This also allows to avoid some dummy errors like fixed by this commit 91ba21208839643603e7f7fa5864723c3f371ebe Author: Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com> Date: Tue Sep 30 14:10:35 2014 +0800 virtio-balloon: fix virtio-balloon child refcount in transports Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> Revieved-by: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> CC: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> --- hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c | 5 ++--- hw/virtio/virtio-pci.c | 5 ++--- 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c b/hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c index ea236c9..82da894 100644 --- a/hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c +++ b/hw/s390x/virtio-ccw.c @@ -899,9 +899,8 @@ static void balloon_ccw_stats_set_poll_interval(Object *obj, struct Visitor *v, static void virtio_ccw_balloon_instance_init(Object *obj) { VirtIOBalloonCcw *dev = VIRTIO_BALLOON_CCW(obj); - object_initialize(&dev->vdev, sizeof(dev->vdev), TYPE_VIRTIO_BALLOON); - object_property_add_child(obj, "virtio-backend", OBJECT(&dev->vdev), NULL); - object_unref(OBJECT(&dev->vdev)); + virtio_instance_init_common(obj, &dev->vdev, sizeof(dev->vdev), + TYPE_VIRTIO_BALLOON); object_property_add(obj, "guest-stats", "guest statistics", balloon_ccw_stats_get_all, NULL, NULL, dev, NULL); diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-pci.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-pci.c index dde1d73..745324b 100644 --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-pci.c +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-pci.c @@ -1316,9 +1316,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_pci_class_init(ObjectClass *klass, void *data) static void virtio_balloon_pci_instance_init(Object *obj) { VirtIOBalloonPCI *dev = VIRTIO_BALLOON_PCI(obj); - object_initialize(&dev->vdev, sizeof(dev->vdev), TYPE_VIRTIO_BALLOON); - object_property_add_child(obj, "virtio-backend", OBJECT(&dev->vdev), NULL); - object_unref(OBJECT(&dev->vdev)); + virtio_instance_init_common(obj, &dev->vdev, sizeof(dev->vdev), + TYPE_VIRTIO_BALLOON); object_property_add(obj, "guest-stats", "guest statistics", balloon_pci_stats_get_all, NULL, NULL, dev, NULL); -- 1.9.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 11:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] balloon: call qdev_alias_all_properties for proxy dev in balloon class init Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 11:45 ` Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 11:50 ` Andrey Korolyov 2014-11-27 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Denis V. Lunev, Michael S. Tsirkin, qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory killer to run. This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit is set on the device. It is off by default. This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in linux-next at the moment) commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> --- hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 6 ++++-- include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h | 2 ++ 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c index 7bfbb75..4d043ce 100644 --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c @@ -305,8 +305,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_set_config(VirtIODevice *vdev, static uint32_t virtio_balloon_get_features(VirtIODevice *vdev, uint32_t f) { - f |= (1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ); - return f; + VirtIOBalloon *dev = VIRTIO_BALLOON(vdev); + return (f | VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ) | dev->host_features; } static void virtio_balloon_stat(void *opaque, BalloonInfo *info) @@ -409,6 +409,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_device_unrealize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp) } static Property virtio_balloon_properties[] = { + DEFINE_PROP_BIT("deflate-on-oom", VirtIOBalloon, host_features, + VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM, false), DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST(), }; diff --git a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h index f863bfe..2e1ccd9 100644 --- a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h +++ b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h @@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ /* The feature bitmap for virtio balloon */ #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST 0 /* Tell before reclaiming pages */ #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ 1 /* Memory stats virtqueue */ +#define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM 2 /* Deflate balloon on OOM */ /* Size of a PFN in the balloon interface. */ #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT 12 @@ -67,6 +68,7 @@ typedef struct VirtIOBalloon { QEMUTimer *stats_timer; int64_t stats_last_update; int64_t stats_poll_interval; + uint32_t host_features; } VirtIOBalloon; #endif -- 1.9.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 11:50 ` Andrey Korolyov 2014-11-27 12:26 ` Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2014-11-27 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Andrey Korolyov @ 2014-11-27 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Denis V. Lunev Cc: Anthony Liguori, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Raushaniya Maksudova, Michael S. Tsirkin On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> wrote: > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. > > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. > > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory > killer to run. > > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit > is set on the device. It is off by default. > > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in > linux-next at the moment) > > commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 > Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 > > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. > > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> > CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> > --- > hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 6 ++++-- > include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h | 2 ++ > 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c > index 7bfbb75..4d043ce 100644 > --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c > +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c > @@ -305,8 +305,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_set_config(VirtIODevice *vdev, > > static uint32_t virtio_balloon_get_features(VirtIODevice *vdev, uint32_t f) > { > - f |= (1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ); > - return f; > + VirtIOBalloon *dev = VIRTIO_BALLOON(vdev); > + return (f | VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ) | dev->host_features; > } > > static void virtio_balloon_stat(void *opaque, BalloonInfo *info) > @@ -409,6 +409,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_device_unrealize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp) > } > > static Property virtio_balloon_properties[] = { > + DEFINE_PROP_BIT("deflate-on-oom", VirtIOBalloon, host_features, > + VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM, false), > DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST(), > }; > > diff --git a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h > index f863bfe..2e1ccd9 100644 > --- a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h > +++ b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h > @@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ > /* The feature bitmap for virtio balloon */ > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST 0 /* Tell before reclaiming pages */ > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ 1 /* Memory stats virtqueue */ > +#define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM 2 /* Deflate balloon on OOM */ > > /* Size of a PFN in the balloon interface. */ > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT 12 > @@ -67,6 +68,7 @@ typedef struct VirtIOBalloon { > QEMUTimer *stats_timer; > int64_t stats_last_update; > int64_t stats_poll_interval; > + uint32_t host_features; > } VirtIOBalloon; > > #endif > -- > 1.9.1 > > Had you tried this with a system-wide OOM on a real workload? This behavior can work perfectly with dedicated memory cgroups, but I`m afraid it would be unusable when entire system stalls and waits for a balloon deflation. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 11:50 ` Andrey Korolyov @ 2014-11-27 12:26 ` Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrey Korolyov, Denis V. Lunev Cc: Raushaniya Maksudova, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori, Michael S. Tsirkin On 27/11/14 14:50, Andrey Korolyov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> wrote: >> Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, >> when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are >> responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it >> is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to >> react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and >> invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon >> should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the >> balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at >> the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. >> >> This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running >> inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus >> some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. >> >> To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is >> expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() >> function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the >> system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory >> killer to run. >> >> This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit >> is set on the device. It is off by default. >> >> This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in >> linux-next at the moment) >> >> commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 >> Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 >> >> This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces >> deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. >> >> Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> >> CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> >> CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> >> --- >> hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 6 ++++-- >> include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h | 2 ++ >> 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c >> index 7bfbb75..4d043ce 100644 >> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c >> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c >> @@ -305,8 +305,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_set_config(VirtIODevice *vdev, >> >> static uint32_t virtio_balloon_get_features(VirtIODevice *vdev, uint32_t f) >> { >> - f |= (1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ); >> - return f; >> + VirtIOBalloon *dev = VIRTIO_BALLOON(vdev); >> + return (f | VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ) | dev->host_features; >> } >> >> static void virtio_balloon_stat(void *opaque, BalloonInfo *info) >> @@ -409,6 +409,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_device_unrealize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp) >> } >> >> static Property virtio_balloon_properties[] = { >> + DEFINE_PROP_BIT("deflate-on-oom", VirtIOBalloon, host_features, >> + VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM, false), >> DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST(), >> }; >> >> diff --git a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h >> index f863bfe..2e1ccd9 100644 >> --- a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h >> +++ b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h >> @@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ >> /* The feature bitmap for virtio balloon */ >> #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST 0 /* Tell before reclaiming pages */ >> #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ 1 /* Memory stats virtqueue */ >> +#define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM 2 /* Deflate balloon on OOM */ >> >> /* Size of a PFN in the balloon interface. */ >> #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT 12 >> @@ -67,6 +68,7 @@ typedef struct VirtIOBalloon { >> QEMUTimer *stats_timer; >> int64_t stats_last_update; >> int64_t stats_poll_interval; >> + uint32_t host_features; >> } VirtIOBalloon; >> >> #endif >> -- >> 1.9.1 >> >> > > Had you tried this with a system-wide OOM on a real workload? This > behavior can work perfectly with dedicated memory cgroups, but I`m > afraid it would be unusable when entire system stalls and waits for a > balloon deflation. > we have tried this with test workloads only at the moment. I think that this is a matter of setup. Yes, this setup probably will result in host OOM. But host system has quite a lot of options to toss host memory (including VMs memory) and the system will survive longer. Host cgroup is also a good idea but in this case (most probably) you will have entire qemu killed. We could think on this in the following terms: OOM is guest is equivalent to OOM in host from the point of critical service interaction. Most likely guest OOM will the fattest eater in guest which is the most critical one and this will not be seen by host at all. If entire QEMU will be killed, the VM could be restarted by the fault tolerance system and even this restart could happen on the different node. These are just simple speculations... Anyway, this behavior is quite native from the point of guest and is off by default. I do not see much problem with it. Though this ability with a proper guest-to-host feedback seems promising from the management point of view. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 11:50 ` Andrey Korolyov 2014-11-27 12:26 ` Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2014-11-27 14:00 ` Andrey Korolyov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2014-11-27 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrey Korolyov Cc: Denis V. Lunev, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:50:11PM +0400, Andrey Korolyov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> wrote: > > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, > > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are > > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it > > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to > > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and > > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon > > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the > > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at > > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. > > > > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running > > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus > > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. > > > > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is > > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() > > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the > > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory > > killer to run. > > > > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit > > is set on the device. It is off by default. > > > > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in > > linux-next at the moment) > > > > commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 > > Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > > Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 > > > > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces > > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. > > > > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> > > CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> > > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> ... > Had you tried this with a system-wide OOM on a real workload? This > behavior can work perfectly with dedicated memory cgroups, but I`m > afraid it would be unusable when entire system stalls and waits for a > balloon deflation. That's really a question about guest drivers though, isn't it? So you aren't responding to correct patches, and aren't copying the correct people. -- MST ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2014-11-27 14:00 ` Andrey Korolyov 2014-11-27 21:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Andrey Korolyov @ 2014-11-27 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael S. Tsirkin Cc: Denis V. Lunev, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:50:11PM +0400, Andrey Korolyov wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> wrote: >> > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, >> > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are >> > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it >> > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to >> > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and >> > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon >> > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the >> > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at >> > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. >> > >> > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running >> > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus >> > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. >> > >> > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is >> > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() >> > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the >> > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory >> > killer to run. >> > >> > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit >> > is set on the device. It is off by default. >> > >> > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in >> > linux-next at the moment) >> > >> > commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 >> > Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> > Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 >> > >> > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces >> > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. >> > >> > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> >> > CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> >> > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> > > ... > >> Had you tried this with a system-wide OOM on a real workload? This >> behavior can work perfectly with dedicated memory cgroups, but I`m >> afraid it would be unusable when entire system stalls and waits for a >> balloon deflation. > > That's really a question about guest drivers though, isn't it? > So you aren't responding to correct patches, and aren't copying > the correct people. > > -- > MST Not entirely, it is a question about host-guest interaction in such a case. If we will wait for a balloon deflation while OOM condition exists at the 'root' cg controller level, for a certain settings it may probably lead to the host unresponsiveness. As for OOM event in a dedicated cgroup with strictly defined set of processes inside, it should way more safe. In other words, even such kind of guest-host interaction can be considered as a potential threat for a host security, as return from a try of balloon defiation may take too much time and some other host processes can be stuck effectively. I am using delayed OOM loop via userspace application, reaching simular goals, but it is using dedicated cgroups explicitly. Please correct me if I am wrong in my suggestions. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 14:00 ` Andrey Korolyov @ 2014-11-27 21:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2014-11-27 22:13 ` Andrey Korolyov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2014-11-27 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrey Korolyov Cc: Denis V. Lunev, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Raushaniya Maksudova On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 06:00:36PM +0400, Andrey Korolyov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:50:11PM +0400, Andrey Korolyov wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> wrote: > >> > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, > >> > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are > >> > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it > >> > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to > >> > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and > >> > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon > >> > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the > >> > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at > >> > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. > >> > > >> > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running > >> > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus > >> > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. > >> > > >> > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is > >> > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() > >> > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the > >> > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory > >> > killer to run. > >> > > >> > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit > >> > is set on the device. It is off by default. > >> > > >> > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in > >> > linux-next at the moment) > >> > > >> > commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 > >> > Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > >> > Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 > >> > > >> > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces > >> > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. > >> > > >> > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> > >> > CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > >> > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> > >> > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> > > > > ... > > > >> Had you tried this with a system-wide OOM on a real workload? This > >> behavior can work perfectly with dedicated memory cgroups, but I`m > >> afraid it would be unusable when entire system stalls and waits for a > >> balloon deflation. > > > > That's really a question about guest drivers though, isn't it? > > So you aren't responding to correct patches, and aren't copying > > the correct people. > > > > -- > > MST > > Not entirely, it is a question about host-guest interaction in such a > case. If we will wait for a balloon deflation while OOM condition > exists at the 'root' cg controller level, for a certain settings it > may probably lead to the host unresponsiveness. As for OOM event in a > dedicated cgroup with strictly defined set of processes inside, it > should way more safe. In other words, even such kind of guest-host > interaction can be considered as a potential threat for a host > security, as return from a try of balloon defiation may take too much > time and some other host processes can be stuck effectively. I am > using delayed OOM loop via userspace application, reaching simular > goals, but it is using dedicated cgroups explicitly. Please correct me > if I am wrong in my suggestions. ATM balloon is cooperative anyway: If guest deflating balloon leads to host OOM, you have misconfigured your host, or you have trusted guests. We could change this: unmap pages from guest memory on inflate, map them back on inflate. -- MST ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 21:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2014-11-27 22:13 ` Andrey Korolyov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Andrey Korolyov @ 2014-11-27 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael S. Tsirkin Cc: Denis V. Lunev, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Raushaniya Maksudova On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 06:00:36PM +0400, Andrey Korolyov wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 03:50:11PM +0400, Andrey Korolyov wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> wrote: >> >> > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, >> >> > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are >> >> > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it >> >> > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to >> >> > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and >> >> > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon >> >> > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the >> >> > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at >> >> > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. >> >> > >> >> > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running >> >> > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus >> >> > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. >> >> > >> >> > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is >> >> > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() >> >> > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the >> >> > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory >> >> > killer to run. >> >> > >> >> > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit >> >> > is set on the device. It is off by default. >> >> > >> >> > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in >> >> > linux-next at the moment) >> >> > >> >> > commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 >> >> > Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> >> > Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 >> >> > >> >> > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces >> >> > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. >> >> > >> >> > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> >> >> > CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> >> > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> >> >> > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> >> > >> > ... >> > >> >> Had you tried this with a system-wide OOM on a real workload? This >> >> behavior can work perfectly with dedicated memory cgroups, but I`m >> >> afraid it would be unusable when entire system stalls and waits for a >> >> balloon deflation. >> > >> > That's really a question about guest drivers though, isn't it? >> > So you aren't responding to correct patches, and aren't copying >> > the correct people. >> > >> > -- >> > MST >> >> Not entirely, it is a question about host-guest interaction in such a >> case. If we will wait for a balloon deflation while OOM condition >> exists at the 'root' cg controller level, for a certain settings it >> may probably lead to the host unresponsiveness. As for OOM event in a >> dedicated cgroup with strictly defined set of processes inside, it >> should way more safe. In other words, even such kind of guest-host >> interaction can be considered as a potential threat for a host >> security, as return from a try of balloon defiation may take too much >> time and some other host processes can be stuck effectively. I am >> using delayed OOM loop via userspace application, reaching simular >> goals, but it is using dedicated cgroups explicitly. Please correct me >> if I am wrong in my suggestions. > > ATM balloon is cooperative anyway: > If guest deflating balloon leads to host OOM, you > have misconfigured your host, or you have trusted > guests. > > We could change this: unmap pages from guest memory on > inflate, map them back on inflate. > > // sorry for bad grammar in a previous message, was distracted at a time Yes, exactly, I meant just a regular (probably untrusted) guest in a previous message, which can either behave badly or its driver may not respond timely (for this case I have zero knowledge on how delay increase of the return from OOM handler will affect hypervisor, if no separate control groups are set and memory pressure is high enough, but I do not expect anything good). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev 2014-11-27 11:50 ` Andrey Korolyov @ 2014-11-27 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2014-11-27 12:34 ` Denis V. Lunev 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2014-11-27 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Denis V. Lunev; +Cc: qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 02:45:42PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote: > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. > > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. > > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory > killer to run. > > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit > is set on the device. It is off by default. > > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in > linux-next at the moment) > > commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 > Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 > > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. > > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> > CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> > --- > hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 6 ++++-- > include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h | 2 ++ > 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c > index 7bfbb75..4d043ce 100644 > --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c > +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c > @@ -305,8 +305,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_set_config(VirtIODevice *vdev, > > static uint32_t virtio_balloon_get_features(VirtIODevice *vdev, uint32_t f) > { > - f |= (1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ); > - return f; > + VirtIOBalloon *dev = VIRTIO_BALLOON(vdev); > + return (f | VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ) | dev->host_features; This looks very strange. You use | on the bit number? Also, no need for () above. > } > > static void virtio_balloon_stat(void *opaque, BalloonInfo *info) > @@ -409,6 +409,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_device_unrealize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp) > } > > static Property virtio_balloon_properties[] = { > + DEFINE_PROP_BIT("deflate-on-oom", VirtIOBalloon, host_features, > + VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM, false), > DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST(), > }; > > diff --git a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h > index f863bfe..2e1ccd9 100644 > --- a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h > +++ b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h > @@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ > /* The feature bitmap for virtio balloon */ > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST 0 /* Tell before reclaiming pages */ > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ 1 /* Memory stats virtqueue */ > +#define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM 2 /* Deflate balloon on OOM */ > > /* Size of a PFN in the balloon interface. */ > #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT 12 > @@ -67,6 +68,7 @@ typedef struct VirtIOBalloon { > QEMUTimer *stats_timer; > int64_t stats_last_update; > int64_t stats_poll_interval; > + uint32_t host_features; > } VirtIOBalloon; > > #endif > -- > 1.9.1 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom 2014-11-27 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2014-11-27 12:34 ` Denis V. Lunev 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2014-11-27 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael S. Tsirkin; +Cc: qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori On 27/11/14 15:31, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 02:45:42PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote: >> Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer, >> when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are >> responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it >> is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to >> react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and >> invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon >> should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the >> balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at >> the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer. >> >> This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running >> inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus >> some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal. >> >> To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is >> expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory() >> function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the >> system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory >> killer to run. >> >> This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit >> is set on the device. It is off by default. >> >> This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in >> linux-next at the moment) >> >> commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5 >> Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030 >> >> This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces >> deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick. >> >> Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org> >> CC: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com> >> CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com> >> CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> >> --- >> hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c | 6 ++++-- >> include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h | 2 ++ >> 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c >> index 7bfbb75..4d043ce 100644 >> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c >> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c >> @@ -305,8 +305,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_set_config(VirtIODevice *vdev, >> >> static uint32_t virtio_balloon_get_features(VirtIODevice *vdev, uint32_t f) >> { >> - f |= (1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ); >> - return f; >> + VirtIOBalloon *dev = VIRTIO_BALLOON(vdev); >> + return (f | VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ) | dev->host_features; > This looks very strange. > You use | on the bit number? > > Also, no need for () above. uuu, my bad :( sure you are right... >> } >> >> static void virtio_balloon_stat(void *opaque, BalloonInfo *info) >> @@ -409,6 +409,8 @@ static void virtio_balloon_device_unrealize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp) >> } >> >> static Property virtio_balloon_properties[] = { >> + DEFINE_PROP_BIT("deflate-on-oom", VirtIOBalloon, host_features, >> + VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM, false), >> DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST(), >> }; >> >> diff --git a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h >> index f863bfe..2e1ccd9 100644 >> --- a/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h >> +++ b/include/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.h >> @@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ >> /* The feature bitmap for virtio balloon */ >> #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_MUST_TELL_HOST 0 /* Tell before reclaiming pages */ >> #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_STATS_VQ 1 /* Memory stats virtqueue */ >> +#define VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEFLATE_ON_OOM 2 /* Deflate balloon on OOM */ >> >> /* Size of a PFN in the balloon interface. */ >> #define VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT 12 >> @@ -67,6 +68,7 @@ typedef struct VirtIOBalloon { >> QEMUTimer *stats_timer; >> int64_t stats_last_update; >> int64_t stats_poll_interval; >> + uint32_t host_features; >> } VirtIOBalloon; >> >> #endif >> -- >> 1.9.1 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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