From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51959) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YzO4y-0008VG-Ro for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 07:40:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YzO4u-00005B-8q for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 07:40:28 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:43077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YzO4u-00004y-3Y for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 07:40:24 -0400 Received: from int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.27]) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FA731BE351 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1433158819.19671.23.camel@nilsson.home.kraxel.org> From: Gerd Hoffmann Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 13:40:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <556C2985.9000909@redhat.com> References: <1432568042-19553-1-git-send-email-marcel@redhat.com> <1432568042-19553-24-git-send-email-marcel@redhat.com> <20150531181221.GJ5268@redhat.com> <556C2985.9000909@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V7 23/24] apci: fix PXB behaviour if used with unsupported BIOS List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Marcel Apfelbaum Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" On Mo, 2015-06-01 at 12:44 +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: > On 05/31/2015 09:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 06:34:01PM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote: > >> PXB does not work with unsupported bioses, but should > >> not interfere with normal OS operation. > >> We don't ship them anymore, but it's reasonable > >> to keep the work-around until we update the bios in qemu. > > > > We already did, did we not? > Yes, we did, but Gerd preferred to keep this patch around. > Adding him to thread. seabios bundled with qemu isn't the only possible firmware. We have ovmf, coreboot, qboot. You might boot with old seabios for whatever reasons (say bisecting down something). IMO qemu should deal with pxe not being initialized by the firmware in a sensible way, for robustness reasons. cheers, Gerd