From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47831) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yzo7e-0004v0-Jl for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:29:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yzo7a-0001SI-5k for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:28:58 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:42628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yzo7a-0001S7-1J for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:28:54 -0400 Message-ID: <1433258929.8336.4.camel@nilsson.home.kraxel.org> From: Gerd Hoffmann Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:28:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <556DA4CB.2050706@free.fr> References: <556C6039.7040408@msgid.tls.msk.ru> <1433232504.1637.20.camel@nilsson.home.kraxel.org> <556D7370.5020303@msgid.tls.msk.ru> <556D961A.2090209@msgid.tls.msk.ru> <556DA4CB.2050706@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] Audio backend cleanup List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Revol Cc: Peter Maydell , Michael Tokarev , QEMU Developers , =?UTF-8?Q?=22K=C5=91v=C3=A1g=C3=B3=2C_Zolt=C3=A1n=22?= On Di, 2015-06-02 at 14:42 +0200, Fran=C3=A7ois Revol wrote: > On 02/06/2015 13:40, Michael Tokarev wrote: > > Yes, that's true. As long as the native version actually works. > > As I said before, initially it didn't, and sdl was the only > > driver that worked. Maybe in 0.12, maybe even before, I don't > > remember anymore, but the fact remains, in our testing only > > sdl was more or less adequate, maybe due to pure luck or > > phase of moon. Later native drivers started working, so we > > started using native driver which is default to the OS, which > > is pulseaudio (installed on all desktop environments) or, > > failing that, alsa (native to linux). >=20 >=20 > Btw, please consider that ports to new host platforms really benefit > from SDL for those things. For example we've been using SDL for the > Haiku port until last year: >=20 > http://bb.haikuports.org/haikuports/commits/df441da15a7c4a5583f6460de2c= a1d570d0caee1 >=20 > All other backends are either *nix only like OSS (Haiku has an OSS port > but only uses its drivers, the API is not made public), or even > Linux-only like PA or ALSA. There are more OSes out there than just > GNU/Linux :p >=20 > It's already hard enough to get stuff upstream into QEMU, having to > write native audio and graphics backends before things get usable won't > help at all. Ok, makes sense. I think we should keep sdl audio then and only drop the other three (esd, fmod, winwave). cheers, Gerd