From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:54:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1433775282.2291.7.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5547403A.5000506@openvz.org>
On Mon, 2015-05-04 at 12:47 +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> On 01/04/15 13:18, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 12:51:42PM +0300, James Bottomley wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 11:50 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 12:44:28PM +0300, James Bottomley wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 09:57 +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> >>>>> Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
> >>>>> when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
> >>>>> responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
> >>>>> is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
> >>>>> react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
> >>>>> invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
> >>>>> should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
> >>>>> balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
> >>>>> the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
> >>>>> inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
> >>>>> some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
> >>>>> expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
> >>>>> function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
> >>>>> system return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
> >>>>> killer to run.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
> >>>>> is set on the device. It is off by default.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
> >>>>> Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
> >>>>> Date: Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
> >>>>> deflate-on-oom option for balloon device which does the trick.
> >>>> What's the status on this, please? It's been over a month since this
> >>>> was posted with no further review feedback, so I think it's ready.
> >>>> Getting this into qemu is blocking our next step which would be adding
> >>>> the feature bit to the virtio spec.
> >>>>
> >>>> James
> >>> This was posted after soft feature freeze for 2.3, so it'll have to go
> >>> into 2.4. I don't see why would this block your work on the spec: you
> >>> should make progress on this meanwhile.
> >> I can do that ... I just thought the spec was trailing edge, so I was
> >> waiting to have the patch accepted, which confirms the implementation.
> >> I didn't want to write it into the spec and have the actual
> >> implementation changed by review later.
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> > It's up to you really, I would just like to point out two things:
> > - spec process is a long one, assuming we accept a spec change,
> > we go though a public review period, multiple votes etc.
> > About half a year to release a spec revision with
> > new features.
> > So time enough to make minor changes.
> > - oasis process works like this (roughly):
> > spec is written
> > spec goes through a public review process
> > community standard is published
> > 3 implementations are reported
> > spec becomes an oasis standard
> > so implementations aren't required at early stages
> 2.3 is done, 2.4 window is opened....
>
> The patch is applicable for both
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/mst/qemu.git
> and vanilla qemu.
>
> How can we proceed?
The spec update supporting this feature is published for review:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/55709/virtio-v1.0-csprd04.zip
It's probably a good idea to have the implementation there as well. Do
we need to resend these patches?
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-08 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-27 6:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate Denis V. Lunev
2015-02-27 6:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] balloon: call qdev_alias_all_properties for proxy dev in balloon class init Denis V. Lunev
2015-02-27 6:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2015-04-01 9:44 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-01 9:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-01 9:51 ` James Bottomley
2015-04-01 10:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-04 9:47 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-06-08 14:54 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2015-06-08 15:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-26 17:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate Denis V. Lunev
2015-02-26 17:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2015-02-26 20:39 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-27 12:44 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:50 ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-11-27 12:26 ` Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 12:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 14:00 ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-11-27 21:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 22:13 ` Andrey Korolyov
2014-11-27 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 12:34 ` Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-26 10:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate virtio_balloon on OOM Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-26 10:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate balloon on oom Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-26 11:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-27 11:04 ` Denis V. Lunev
2014-11-27 11:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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