* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection
@ 2015-06-30 11:48 Richard W.M. Jones
2015-06-30 11:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails Richard W.M. Jones
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Richard W.M. Jones @ 2015-06-30 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jcody; +Cc: kwolf, armbru, qemu-devel, qemu-block, agraf
No change since version 1, but I've added Jeff and Kevin to the
CC as suggested by 'scripts/get_maintainer.pl'.
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* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails.
2015-06-30 11:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection Richard W.M. Jones
@ 2015-06-30 11:48 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2015-07-03 12:35 ` Markus Armbruster
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Richard W.M. Jones @ 2015-06-30 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jcody; +Cc: kwolf, armbru, qemu-devel, qemu-block, agraf
Currently if qemu is connected to a curl source (eg. web server), and
the web server fails / times out / dies, you always see a bogus EIO
"Input/output error".
For example, choose a large file located on any local webserver which
you control:
$ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
Once it starts copying the file, stop the webserver and you will see
qemu-img fail with:
qemu-img: error while reading sector 61440: Input/output error
This patch does two things: Firstly print the actual error from curl
so it doesn't get lost. Secondly, change EIO to EPROTO. EPROTO is a
POSIX.1 compatible errno which more accurately reflects that there was
a protocol error, rather than some kind of hardware failure.
After this patch is applied, the error changes to:
$ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
qemu-img: curl: transfer closed with 469989 bytes remaining to read
qemu-img: error while reading sector 16384: Protocol error
Signed-off-by: Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com>
Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
---
block/curl.c | 9 ++++++++-
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/block/curl.c b/block/curl.c
index 3a2b63e..2fd7c06 100644
--- a/block/curl.c
+++ b/block/curl.c
@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
* THE SOFTWARE.
*/
#include "qemu-common.h"
+#include "qemu/error-report.h"
#include "block/block_int.h"
#include "qapi/qmp/qbool.h"
#include "qapi/qmp/qstring.h"
@@ -298,6 +299,12 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
/* ACBs for successful messages get completed in curl_read_cb */
if (msg->data.result != CURLE_OK) {
int i;
+
+ /* Don't lose the original error message from curl, since
+ * it contains extra data.
+ */
+ error_report("curl: %s", state->errmsg);
+
for (i = 0; i < CURL_NUM_ACB; i++) {
CURLAIOCB *acb = state->acb[i];
@@ -305,7 +312,7 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
continue;
}
- acb->common.cb(acb->common.opaque, -EIO);
+ acb->common.cb(acb->common.opaque, -EPROTO);
qemu_aio_unref(acb);
state->acb[i] = NULL;
}
--
2.3.1
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails.
2015-06-30 11:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails Richard W.M. Jones
@ 2015-07-03 12:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-07-08 10:23 ` Kevin Wolf
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Markus Armbruster @ 2015-07-03 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard W.M. Jones; +Cc: kwolf, jcody, qemu-devel, qemu-block, agraf
"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com> writes:
> Currently if qemu is connected to a curl source (eg. web server), and
> the web server fails / times out / dies, you always see a bogus EIO
> "Input/output error".
>
> For example, choose a large file located on any local webserver which
> you control:
>
> $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
>
> Once it starts copying the file, stop the webserver and you will see
> qemu-img fail with:
>
> qemu-img: error while reading sector 61440: Input/output error
>
> This patch does two things: Firstly print the actual error from curl
> so it doesn't get lost. Secondly, change EIO to EPROTO. EPROTO is a
> POSIX.1 compatible errno which more accurately reflects that there was
> a protocol error, rather than some kind of hardware failure.
>
> After this patch is applied, the error changes to:
>
> $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
> qemu-img: curl: transfer closed with 469989 bytes remaining to read
> qemu-img: error while reading sector 16384: Protocol error
>
> Signed-off-by: Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> ---
> block/curl.c | 9 ++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/block/curl.c b/block/curl.c
> index 3a2b63e..2fd7c06 100644
> --- a/block/curl.c
> +++ b/block/curl.c
> @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
> * THE SOFTWARE.
> */
> #include "qemu-common.h"
> +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
> #include "block/block_int.h"
> #include "qapi/qmp/qbool.h"
> #include "qapi/qmp/qstring.h"
> @@ -298,6 +299,12 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
> /* ACBs for successful messages get completed in curl_read_cb */
> if (msg->data.result != CURLE_OK) {
> int i;
> +
> + /* Don't lose the original error message from curl, since
> + * it contains extra data.
> + */
> + error_report("curl: %s", state->errmsg);
> +
> for (i = 0; i < CURL_NUM_ACB; i++) {
> CURLAIOCB *acb = state->acb[i];
>
Printing an error message, then returning an error code is problematic.
It works when the caller is going to print its own error message to the
same destination. Callee produces a specific error message devoid of
context, caller produces an unspecific one with hopefully more context.
Better than just one of them. Worse than a single specific error with
context, but that can't be done with just a "return errno code"
interface.
It's kind of wrong when the caller reports its own error somewhere else,
e.g. to a monitor. Still, when barfing extra info to stderr is the best
we can do, it's better than nothing.
It's more wrong when the caller handles the error quietly. I guess
that's never the case here, but I can't be sure without a lot more
sleuthing. Perhaps Kevin or Stefan can judge this immediately.
> @@ -305,7 +312,7 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
> continue;
> }
>
> - acb->common.cb(acb->common.opaque, -EIO);
> + acb->common.cb(acb->common.opaque, -EPROTO);
> qemu_aio_unref(acb);
> state->acb[i] = NULL;
> }
To understand impact exactly, we'd need to figure out where the changed
error code gets consumed. However, I don't expect consumers to check
the actual error code. A quick grep for comparisons with EIO or -EIO
finds nothing related to block I/O, except for nbd_trip() checking the
value of nbd_co_receive_request(), and that's unrelated.
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails.
2015-07-03 12:35 ` Markus Armbruster
@ 2015-07-08 10:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-07-08 11:36 ` Richard W.M. Jones
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2015-07-08 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Armbruster
Cc: agraf, jcody, Richard W.M. Jones, qemu-block, qemu-devel
Am 03.07.2015 um 14:35 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
> "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com> writes:
>
> > Currently if qemu is connected to a curl source (eg. web server), and
> > the web server fails / times out / dies, you always see a bogus EIO
> > "Input/output error".
> >
> > For example, choose a large file located on any local webserver which
> > you control:
> >
> > $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
> >
> > Once it starts copying the file, stop the webserver and you will see
> > qemu-img fail with:
> >
> > qemu-img: error while reading sector 61440: Input/output error
> >
> > This patch does two things: Firstly print the actual error from curl
> > so it doesn't get lost. Secondly, change EIO to EPROTO. EPROTO is a
> > POSIX.1 compatible errno which more accurately reflects that there was
> > a protocol error, rather than some kind of hardware failure.
> >
> > After this patch is applied, the error changes to:
> >
> > $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
> > qemu-img: curl: transfer closed with 469989 bytes remaining to read
> > qemu-img: error while reading sector 16384: Protocol error
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > block/curl.c | 9 ++++++++-
> > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/block/curl.c b/block/curl.c
> > index 3a2b63e..2fd7c06 100644
> > --- a/block/curl.c
> > +++ b/block/curl.c
> > @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
> > * THE SOFTWARE.
> > */
> > #include "qemu-common.h"
> > +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
> > #include "block/block_int.h"
> > #include "qapi/qmp/qbool.h"
> > #include "qapi/qmp/qstring.h"
> > @@ -298,6 +299,12 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
> > /* ACBs for successful messages get completed in curl_read_cb */
> > if (msg->data.result != CURLE_OK) {
> > int i;
> > +
> > + /* Don't lose the original error message from curl, since
> > + * it contains extra data.
> > + */
> > + error_report("curl: %s", state->errmsg);
> > +
> > for (i = 0; i < CURL_NUM_ACB; i++) {
> > CURLAIOCB *acb = state->acb[i];
> >
>
> Printing an error message, then returning an error code is problematic.
>
> It works when the caller is going to print its own error message to the
> same destination. Callee produces a specific error message devoid of
> context, caller produces an unspecific one with hopefully more context.
> Better than just one of them. Worse than a single specific error with
> context, but that can't be done with just a "return errno code"
> interface.
>
> It's kind of wrong when the caller reports its own error somewhere else,
> e.g. to a monitor. Still, when barfing extra info to stderr is the best
> we can do, it's better than nothing.
>
> It's more wrong when the caller handles the error quietly. I guess
> that's never the case here, but I can't be sure without a lot more
> sleuthing. Perhaps Kevin or Stefan can judge this immediately.
I'm not worried too much about requests made by the monitor or during
startup. I don't like the error_report() there, but having a more
specific error message on stderr is better than having nothing.
The case that bothers me more is guest requests. Depending on the
werror/rerror settings, this may allow the guest to flood the log file
with curl error messages.
> > @@ -305,7 +312,7 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
> > continue;
> > }
> >
> > - acb->common.cb(acb->common.opaque, -EIO);
> > + acb->common.cb(acb->common.opaque, -EPROTO);
> > qemu_aio_unref(acb);
> > state->acb[i] = NULL;
> > }
>
> To understand impact exactly, we'd need to figure out where the changed
> error code gets consumed. However, I don't expect consumers to check
> the actual error code. A quick grep for comparisons with EIO or -EIO
> finds nothing related to block I/O, except for nbd_trip() checking the
> value of nbd_co_receive_request(), and that's unrelated.
Yes, I wouldn't expect any problems caused by this change.
Kevin
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails.
2015-07-08 10:23 ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2015-07-08 11:36 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2015-07-08 12:01 ` Kevin Wolf
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Richard W.M. Jones @ 2015-07-08 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kevin Wolf; +Cc: agraf, jcody, Markus Armbruster, qemu-block, qemu-devel
On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 12:23:37PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 03.07.2015 um 14:35 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
> > "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com> writes:
> >
> > > Currently if qemu is connected to a curl source (eg. web server), and
> > > the web server fails / times out / dies, you always see a bogus EIO
> > > "Input/output error".
> > >
> > > For example, choose a large file located on any local webserver which
> > > you control:
> > >
> > > $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
> > >
> > > Once it starts copying the file, stop the webserver and you will see
> > > qemu-img fail with:
> > >
> > > qemu-img: error while reading sector 61440: Input/output error
> > >
> > > This patch does two things: Firstly print the actual error from curl
> > > so it doesn't get lost. Secondly, change EIO to EPROTO. EPROTO is a
> > > POSIX.1 compatible errno which more accurately reflects that there was
> > > a protocol error, rather than some kind of hardware failure.
> > >
> > > After this patch is applied, the error changes to:
> > >
> > > $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
> > > qemu-img: curl: transfer closed with 469989 bytes remaining to read
> > > qemu-img: error while reading sector 16384: Protocol error
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com>
> > > Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > block/curl.c | 9 ++++++++-
> > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/block/curl.c b/block/curl.c
> > > index 3a2b63e..2fd7c06 100644
> > > --- a/block/curl.c
> > > +++ b/block/curl.c
> > > @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
> > > * THE SOFTWARE.
> > > */
> > > #include "qemu-common.h"
> > > +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
> > > #include "block/block_int.h"
> > > #include "qapi/qmp/qbool.h"
> > > #include "qapi/qmp/qstring.h"
> > > @@ -298,6 +299,12 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
> > > /* ACBs for successful messages get completed in curl_read_cb */
> > > if (msg->data.result != CURLE_OK) {
> > > int i;
> > > +
> > > + /* Don't lose the original error message from curl, since
> > > + * it contains extra data.
> > > + */
> > > + error_report("curl: %s", state->errmsg);
> > > +
> > > for (i = 0; i < CURL_NUM_ACB; i++) {
> > > CURLAIOCB *acb = state->acb[i];
> > >
> >
> > Printing an error message, then returning an error code is problematic.
> >
> > It works when the caller is going to print its own error message to the
> > same destination. Callee produces a specific error message devoid of
> > context, caller produces an unspecific one with hopefully more context.
> > Better than just one of them. Worse than a single specific error with
> > context, but that can't be done with just a "return errno code"
> > interface.
> >
> > It's kind of wrong when the caller reports its own error somewhere else,
> > e.g. to a monitor. Still, when barfing extra info to stderr is the best
> > we can do, it's better than nothing.
> >
> > It's more wrong when the caller handles the error quietly. I guess
> > that's never the case here, but I can't be sure without a lot more
> > sleuthing. Perhaps Kevin or Stefan can judge this immediately.
>
> I'm not worried too much about requests made by the monitor or during
> startup. I don't like the error_report() there, but having a more
> specific error message on stderr is better than having nothing.
>
> The case that bothers me more is guest requests. Depending on the
> werror/rerror settings, this may allow the guest to flood the log file
> with curl error messages.
Can you expand a bit on how they would do this? I can see how the
remote web server can cause a curl error (itself possibly a concern),
but not how the guest can do it.
Rich.
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails.
2015-07-08 11:36 ` Richard W.M. Jones
@ 2015-07-08 12:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-07-08 12:27 ` Richard W.M. Jones
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2015-07-08 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard W.M. Jones
Cc: agraf, jcody, Markus Armbruster, qemu-block, qemu-devel
Am 08.07.2015 um 13:36 hat Richard W.M. Jones geschrieben:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 12:23:37PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 03.07.2015 um 14:35 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
> > > "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > Currently if qemu is connected to a curl source (eg. web server), and
> > > > the web server fails / times out / dies, you always see a bogus EIO
> > > > "Input/output error".
> > > >
> > > > For example, choose a large file located on any local webserver which
> > > > you control:
> > > >
> > > > $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
> > > >
> > > > Once it starts copying the file, stop the webserver and you will see
> > > > qemu-img fail with:
> > > >
> > > > qemu-img: error while reading sector 61440: Input/output error
> > > >
> > > > This patch does two things: Firstly print the actual error from curl
> > > > so it doesn't get lost. Secondly, change EIO to EPROTO. EPROTO is a
> > > > POSIX.1 compatible errno which more accurately reflects that there was
> > > > a protocol error, rather than some kind of hardware failure.
> > > >
> > > > After this patch is applied, the error changes to:
> > > >
> > > > $ qemu-img convert -p http://example.com/large.iso /tmp/test
> > > > qemu-img: curl: transfer closed with 469989 bytes remaining to read
> > > > qemu-img: error while reading sector 16384: Protocol error
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > block/curl.c | 9 ++++++++-
> > > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/block/curl.c b/block/curl.c
> > > > index 3a2b63e..2fd7c06 100644
> > > > --- a/block/curl.c
> > > > +++ b/block/curl.c
> > > > @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
> > > > * THE SOFTWARE.
> > > > */
> > > > #include "qemu-common.h"
> > > > +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
> > > > #include "block/block_int.h"
> > > > #include "qapi/qmp/qbool.h"
> > > > #include "qapi/qmp/qstring.h"
> > > > @@ -298,6 +299,12 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
> > > > /* ACBs for successful messages get completed in curl_read_cb */
> > > > if (msg->data.result != CURLE_OK) {
> > > > int i;
> > > > +
> > > > + /* Don't lose the original error message from curl, since
> > > > + * it contains extra data.
> > > > + */
> > > > + error_report("curl: %s", state->errmsg);
> > > > +
> > > > for (i = 0; i < CURL_NUM_ACB; i++) {
> > > > CURLAIOCB *acb = state->acb[i];
> > > >
> > >
> > > Printing an error message, then returning an error code is problematic.
> > >
> > > It works when the caller is going to print its own error message to the
> > > same destination. Callee produces a specific error message devoid of
> > > context, caller produces an unspecific one with hopefully more context.
> > > Better than just one of them. Worse than a single specific error with
> > > context, but that can't be done with just a "return errno code"
> > > interface.
> > >
> > > It's kind of wrong when the caller reports its own error somewhere else,
> > > e.g. to a monitor. Still, when barfing extra info to stderr is the best
> > > we can do, it's better than nothing.
> > >
> > > It's more wrong when the caller handles the error quietly. I guess
> > > that's never the case here, but I can't be sure without a lot more
> > > sleuthing. Perhaps Kevin or Stefan can judge this immediately.
> >
> > I'm not worried too much about requests made by the monitor or during
> > startup. I don't like the error_report() there, but having a more
> > specific error message on stderr is better than having nothing.
> >
> > The case that bothers me more is guest requests. Depending on the
> > werror/rerror settings, this may allow the guest to flood the log file
> > with curl error messages.
>
> Can you expand a bit on how they would do this? I can see how the
> remote web server can cause a curl error (itself possibly a concern),
> but not how the guest can do it.
The guest can't cause it, but once the connection is down, I expect
every request to fail. You don't have to have a malicious guest for
filling up the log file, it just needs to be careless enough to continue
trying new requests instead of offlining the device.
Kevin
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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] block/curl: Don't lose original error when a connection fails.
2015-07-08 12:01 ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2015-07-08 12:27 ` Richard W.M. Jones
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Richard W.M. Jones @ 2015-07-08 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kevin Wolf; +Cc: agraf, jcody, Markus Armbruster, qemu-block, qemu-devel
On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 02:01:30PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> The guest can't cause it, but once the connection is down, I expect
> every request to fail. You don't have to have a malicious guest for
> filling up the log file, it just needs to be careless enough to continue
> trying new requests instead of offlining the device.
How about something along these lines?
[I'm not clear if atomic is necessary here, nor if there is already
some mechanism for suppressing log messages - a cursory grep of the
qemu source didn't find anything.]
diff --git a/block/curl.c b/block/curl.c
index 2fd7c06..33c14d8 100644
--- a/block/curl.c
+++ b/block/curl.c
@@ -299,11 +299,20 @@ static void curl_multi_check_completion(BDRVCURLState *s)
/* ACBs for successful messages get completed in curl_read_cb */
if (msg->data.result != CURLE_OK) {
int i;
+ static int errcount = 100;
+ int current_errcount;
/* Don't lose the original error message from curl, since
* it contains extra data.
*/
- error_report("curl: %s", state->errmsg);
+ current_errcount = atomic_fetch_add(&errcount, 0);
+ if (current_errcount > 0) {
+ error_report("curl: %s", state->errmsg);
+ if (current_errcount == 1) {
+ error_report("curl: further errors suppressed");
+ }
+ atomic_dec(&errcount);
+ }
for (i = 0; i < CURL_NUM_ACB; i++) {
CURLAIOCB *acb = state->acb[i];
Rich.
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