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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	peterx@redhat.com, Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:26:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1461083204.20056.8.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160419191914-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

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On Tue, 2016-04-19 at 19:20 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> 
> > I thought that PLATFORM served that purpose.  Woudn't the host
> > advertise PLATFORM support and, if the guest doesn't ack it, the host
> > device would skip translation?  Or is that problematic for vfio?
> 
> Exactly that's problematic for security.
> You can't allow guest driver to decide whether device skips security.

Right. Because fundamentally, this *isn't* a property of the endpoint
device, and doesn't live in virtio itself.

It's a property of the platform IOMMU, and lives there.

-- 
dwmw2


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-19 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-18 11:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 11:58 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 13:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 14:03     ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 14:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 15:22         ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 15:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 15:51             ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 16:27               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 18:29                 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 19:24                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 10:27                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 16:02                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:09                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 16:12                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:20                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 16:26                               ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2016-04-19 17:49                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 18:01                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 20:16                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 20:27                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 20:54                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 21:07                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-20 13:14                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-20 15:43                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19  9:13                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 14:44                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-04-19 16:00                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:04                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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