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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	aarcange@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 11:17:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1466155074.18921.16.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <08f8e4e0-781a-d7f2-9008-3274f8a085eb@redhat.com>

On Fr, 2016-06-17 at 10:43 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> On 17/06/2016 10:15, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > Larger is a problem if the guest tries to map something to a high
> > address that's not addressable.
> 
> Right.  It's not a problem for most emulated PCI devices (it would be a
> problem for those that have large RAM BARs, but even our emulated video
> cards do not have 64-bit RAM BARs, I think;

qxl can be configured to have one, try "-device
qxl-vga,vram64_size_mb=1024"

> >    2) While we have maxmem settings to tell us the top of VM RAM, do
> >       we have anything that tells us the top of IO space? What happens
> >       when we hotplug a PCI card?

> (arch/x86/kernel/setup.c) but I agree that (2) is a blocker.

seabios maps stuff right above ram (possibly with a hole due to
alignment requirements).

ovmf maps stuff into a 32G-aligned 32G hole.  Which lands at 32G and
therefore is addressable with 36 bits, unless you have tons of ram (>
30G) assigned to your guest.  A physical host machine where you can plug
in enough ram for such a configuration likely has more than 36 physical
address lines too ...

qemu checks where the firmware mapped 64bit bars, then adds those ranges
to the root bus pci resources in the acpi tables (see /proc/iomem).

> You don't know how the guest will assign PCI BAR addresses, and as you
> said there's hotplug too.

Not sure whenever qemu adds some extra space for hotplug to the 64bit
hole and if so how it calculates the size then.  But the guest os should
stick to those ranges when configuring hotplugged devices.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-17  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 17:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] x86: Physical address limit patches Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] BIT_RANGE convenience macro Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 17:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-16 18:01   ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-16 18:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-20 14:11     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-20 14:17       ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] x86: Mask mtrr mask based on CPU physical address limits Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 19:59   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  8:23     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17 12:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] x86: fill high bits of mtrr mask Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 20:14   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  7:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 12:46       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 13:41           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 14:25             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:27               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 15:29                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:35                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:51           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17 14:19             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17  8:53     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 18:09     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-16 20:24   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  8:15     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17  8:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17  9:17         ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2016-06-17  9:52           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-17 11:20             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-17 16:20               ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-06-17 16:07             ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-06-19 16:13               ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-20 10:42                 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-20 11:13                   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-17  9:37       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17  9:54         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 13:18       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:19           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 15:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:49               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-21 19:44                 ` [Qemu-devel] Default for phys-addr-bits? (was Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set) Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-22 12:41                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 14:24                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 14:33                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 14:44                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 14:48                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 15:02                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 22:44                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-22 23:23                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 23:45                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-23  8:40                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-23 16:38                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-24  5:55                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-24 23:12                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-29 16:42                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30  6:10                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-30 10:59                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30 16:14                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-30 17:12                                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-07-01 19:03                                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-22 22:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-22 23:15                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-19  3:36           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-20  7:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 14:24         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] x86: Set physical address bits based on host Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-17  7:25   ` Igor Mammedov

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