From: Robert Hu <robert.hu@vmm.sh.intel.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: robert.hu@intel.com, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Explicitly print out default vnc option in use
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:53:57 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1466240037.15321.2.camel@vmm.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k2hziwu4.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>
On Wed, 2016-06-08 at 16:22 +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Robert Hu <robert.hu@vmm.sh.intel.com> writes:
>
> > On Mon, 2016-06-06 at 09:28 +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> Robert Hu <robert.hu@vmm.sh.intel.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 13:17 +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> >> Robert Hu <robert.hu@vmm.sh.intel.com> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tue, 2016-05-31 at 09:51 +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > [trim...]
> >> > I don't see a './configure' option related to this '-vnc to' param. Is
> >> > there any?
> >> > '--help', you mean 'qemu-system_x86-64 --help'? or './configure --help'?
> > [seems repeated contents, trim...]
> >> > I don't see a './configure' option related to this '-vnc to' param. Is
> >> > there any?
> >> > '--help', you mean 'qemu-system_x86-64 --help'? or './configure --help'?
> >>
> >> The former.
> >>
> >> The modern way to select a display is -display. The older -nographic,
> >> -curses, -sdl are retained for backward compatibility.
> >>
> >> Relevant parts of -help:
> >>
> >> Display options:
> >> -display sdl[,frame=on|off][,alt_grab=on|off][,ctrl_grab=on|off]
> >> [,window_close=on|off]|curses|none|
> >> gtk[,grab_on_hover=on|off]|
> >> vnc=<display>[,<optargs>]
> >> select display type
> >> -nographic disable graphical output and redirect serial I/Os to console
> >> -curses use a curses/ncurses interface instead of SDL
> >> [...]
> >> -sdl enable SDL
> >> [...]
> >> -vnc display start a VNC server on display
> >>
> >> Issues:
> >>
> >> * Help for -display is broken: the mutually exclusive option arguments
> >> are concatenated. -display curses and -display none are undocumented.
> >> It should look more like this:
> >>
> >> -display sdl[,frame=on|off][,alt_grab=on|off][,ctrl_grab=on|off]
> >> [,window_close=on|off]|curses|none|
> >> -display gtk[,grab_on_hover=on|off]|
> >> -display vnc=<display>[,<optargs>]
> >> -display curses
> >> -display none
> >> select display type
> >>
> >> * -display sdl,gl=on|off and -display gtk,gl=on|off are undocumented
> >> (missed in commit 0b71a5d5c and 97edf3b).
> >>
> >> * There is no help on the <display> in -display vnc=<display>.
> >>
> >> * There is no help on the default. main() picks the default depending
> >> on configure options:
> >>
> >> #if defined(CONFIG_GTK)
> >> display_type = DT_GTK;
> >> #elif defined(CONFIG_SDL)
> >> display_type = DT_SDL;
> >> #elif defined(CONFIG_COCOA)
> >> display_type = DT_COCOA;
> >> #elif defined(CONFIG_VNC)
> >> vnc_parse("localhost:0,to=99,id=default", &error_abort);
> >> show_vnc_port = 1;
> >> #else
> >> display_type = DT_NONE;
> >> #endif
> >>
> >> Help should show the default this binary will pick. This is what I
> >> meant by "Ideally, --help output would show the defaults for this
> >> build's configuration."
> >>
> >> * Help should explain syntacic sugar:
> >> -curses is sugar for -display curses
> >> -sdl is sugar for -display sdl
> >> -vnc display is sugar for -display vnc=display
> >>
> >> -nographic is also sugar, but too complicated to explain; I'd leave it
> >> as is.
> >>
> >> Non-issue
> >>
> >> * Help shows options even when they're not compiled in. That's okay,
> >> because trying to use them fails with an "FOO support is disabled"
> >> error message.
> >>
> >> >> If we decide users need more information than the current "VNC server
> >> >> running on" line, perhaps it should be included right in that line.
> >>
> >> This would complement, but not replace better -help ouput.
> >>
> >> If you would like to work on these issues, let us know.
> >
> > OK, if not in a hurry and assuming this is not a huge amount of work.
> > I also need to look into the build arch so that completely understand
> > your 'the default this binary will pick', till now I don't.
> >
> > Another concern is that I'm not a native English speaker, so those
> > description words may not be that apt and concise.
>
> Imperfect English can be addressed in review. Can be inefficient when
> most of the work is English rather than code. But if you want to try
> anyway, go right ahead regardless.
Hi Markus,
After did some part-time investigation, I'd like to confirm with you:
this change you required seems also just qemu-options.hx involved, am I
right?
If so, I'd like to do that.
>
> [...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-18 8:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-31 6:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Reveal 'to' parameter of 'vnc' option to user Robert Ho
2016-05-31 6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Reveal 'to' param of '-vnc' option in qemu man page Robert Ho
2016-05-31 6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Explicitly print out default vnc option in use Robert Ho
2016-05-31 7:51 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-05-31 9:49 ` Robert Hu
2016-05-31 11:17 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-06-05 13:15 ` Robert Hu
2016-06-06 7:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-06-07 0:28 ` Robert Hu
2016-06-07 3:09 ` Robert Hu
2016-06-08 14:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-06-18 8:53 ` Robert Hu [this message]
2016-06-20 5:54 ` Markus Armbruster
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2016-05-31 7:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Reveal 'to' parameter of 'vnc' option to user Robert Ho
2016-05-31 7:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Explicitly print out default vnc option in use Robert Ho
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