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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, alex.bennee@linaro.org, rth@twiddle.net,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/4] target-ppc: use atomic_cmpxchg for ld/st reservation
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 15:24:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1473225857.8689.62.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d1kgjoy9.fsf@abhimanyu.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>

On Wed, 2016-09-07 at 10:17 +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> > David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> 
> > 
> > [ Unknown signature status ]
> > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > 
> > This really needs a comment indicating that this implementation isn't
> > strictly correct (although probably good enough in practice).
> 
> Sure. And it also does not help if someone uses any store other than
> store conditional, that isn't taken care.
> 
> Assumption here is the locking primitives use load with reservation and
> store conditional. And no other ld/st variant touch this memory.

This is an incorrect assumption. spin_unlock for example uses a normal
store.

That being said, you will observe the difference in value which should
hopefully make things work...

I *hope* we don't have anything that relies on a normal store of the same
value as the atomic breaking the reservation, I *think* we might get away
with it, but it is indeed fishy.

> > Specifically a racing store which happens to store the same value
> > which was already in memory should clobber the reservation, but won't
> > with this implementation.
> > 
> > I had a long discussion at KVM Forum with Emilio Costa about this, in
> > which I discovered just how hard it is to strictly implement
> > store-conditional semantics in terms of anything else.  So, this is
> > probably a reasonable substitute, but we should note the fact that
> > it's not 100%.
> 
> I will update the commit log.
> 
> Regards,
> Nikunj

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-07  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-02  6:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/4] Enable MTTCG on PowerPC Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/4] spapr-hcall: take iothread lock during handler call Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  8:53   ` Greg Kurz
2016-09-02  9:28     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  9:57       ` Greg Kurz
2016-09-03 16:31         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02 10:06   ` Thomas Huth
2016-09-03 16:33     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/4] target-ppc: with MTTCG report more threads Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  9:28   ` Greg Kurz
2016-09-02  9:34     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02 10:45       ` Greg Kurz
2016-09-03 16:34         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-07  3:51   ` David Gibson
2016-09-07  4:41     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/4] target-ppc: use atomic_cmpxchg for ld/st reservation Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-07  4:02   ` David Gibson
2016-09-07  4:47     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-07  5:24       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2016-09-07  8:42         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-07  5:34       ` David Gibson
2016-09-07  7:13         ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-12  1:19           ` David Gibson
2016-09-12  8:39             ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-12  9:15               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-02  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 4/4] target-ppc: flush tlb from all the cpu Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  7:22   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-02  7:34     ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-04 17:00       ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-04 22:17         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-05  0:10         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-06  1:55           ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-06  3:05             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-06  4:53               ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-06  5:30                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-06  6:57                   ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/4] Enable MTTCG on PowerPC Cédric Le Goater
2016-09-02  6:46   ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02  7:57   ` Thomas Huth
2016-09-02 11:44     ` Cédric Le Goater
2016-09-02  7:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-02  7:39   ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2016-09-02 12:13     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-09-07  4:08   ` David Gibson
2016-09-07  4:48     ` Nikunj A Dadhania

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