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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	BALATON Zoltan <balaton@eik.bme.hu>,
	jan.kiszka@siemens.com, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	cota@braap.org, "qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	bobby.prani@gmail.com, fred.konrad@greensocs.com,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] qemu-system-ppc video artifacts since "tcg: drop global lock during TCG code execution"
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:25:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1489591539.15659.60.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efxypqug.fsf@linaro.org>

  Hi,

> Instead of having MMIO register spaces we use the dirty tracking
> mechanism. Here regions are marked as for dirty tracking and when the
> SoftMMU helper first comes to this bit of memory it will follow the slow
> path and mark region as visited.

visited?  Do you mean dirty bit is set for the page?  Or is this
something else?

> Once done this bit is cleared and all
> future writes to that page are written directly from the translated
> code. This no longer has an implicit synchronisation from the BQL so
> there is now a race and you can have memory being updated which might
> miss this flagging.

Not fully following what you are trying to say.  But pages being updated
without dirty bit getting set (if clear) certainly is a problem for the
vga emulation (and live migration too).

> Note that KVM has some similar hacks to avoid trapping all writes to
> video memory with its coalesced mmio mechanism however I'm not familiar
> with all the details.

Normal linear framebuffer access doesn't use this.

> Now there are mechanisms we can use to ensure there are no races happen
> and return to the situation that the display is only updated when the
> TCG cores are not running.

tcg and display updates running in parallel isn't a problem, we have
that with kvm anyway.  Dirty bit handling must be correct though.

With kvm at the start of each display update vga fetches the dirty
bitmap from the kernel (memory_region_sync_dirty_bitmap).  Then it goes
use memory_region_get_dirty to figure which pages have been touched.

When memory_region_sync_dirty_bitmap is called the kernel will clear the
memory bitmap of the region and also map all pages read-only.  Next
guest update will pagefault and the kernel can set the dirty bit for the
page (maybe there is a more efficient way with EPT available).

I suspect the memory_region_sync_dirty_bitmap call on tcg should reset
the fast path optimization, so the slow path can update the dirty bits
correctly.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-15 15:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <36e41adf-b0b3-3efa-51c4-f1a70cd05b98@ilande.co.uk>
2017-03-13 21:28 ` [Qemu-devel] qemu-system-ppc video artifacts since "tcg: drop global lock during TCG code execution" Mark Cave-Ayland
     [not found] ` <87wpbsp49a.fsf@linaro.org>
2017-03-14 11:12   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-03-14 13:56     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " BALATON Zoltan
2017-03-14 15:02       ` luigi burdo
2017-03-14 15:41       ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-14 15:52         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-03-14 16:48           ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-14 17:34             ` BALATON Zoltan
2017-03-14 17:53               ` luigi burdo
2017-03-15 11:14               ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-15 13:26                 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-03-15 14:19                   ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-16  6:39               ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-16  7:51                 ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-16  8:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-16 15:34                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-03-16 17:00                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-28 13:40                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-03-28 14:13                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15 14:16           ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-15 15:25             ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2017-03-15 16:20               ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-16  7:35                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-03-16  7:56                   ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-16 14:22                   ` Paolo Bonzini

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