From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49025) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVAZE-0008DA-IC for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 01:52:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVAZ9-0004BJ-ND for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 01:52:08 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:35948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVAZ9-0004AJ-H0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 01:52:03 -0400 Message-ID: <1499838706.18762.1.camel@redhat.com> From: Gerd Hoffmann Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:51:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170711144215.GI4335@noname.str.redhat.com> References: <5233eee1-a017-ccae-3458-762c9e86902c@redhat.com> <20170707133949.GH10776@localhost.localdomain> <20170707181642-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20170707180358.GA12152@localhost.localdomain> <626ce419-8418-a4a2-88d3-b61bf20bbb32@redhat.com> <20170710135943.GG12152@localhost.localdomain> <20170710194345-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20170710174730.GL12152@localhost.localdomain> <063778b8-d517-dcac-3c83-95076604a16c@redhat.com> <1499760785.8257.5.camel@redhat.com> <20170711144215.GI4335@noname.str.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] change x86 default machine type to Q35? List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Kevin Wolf Cc: "Tian, Kevin" , Eduardo Habkost , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , libvir-list@redhat.com, Thomas Huth , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Chao Peng , Marcel Apfelbaum , Paolo Bonzini , Laszlo Ersek Hi, > > I think simply not having a default > > machine type (as already suggested elsewhere in this thread) is the > > best way to deal with this. > > I would absolutely hate this. One of the nice things about qemu has > always been that 'qemu disk.img' is enough to start a simple VM. Well, not really. There is no "qemu" any more, and there are other defaults like default memory size which need tweaks, so the minimum command line isn't that short any more and looks more like this: qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 1G disk.img cheers, Gerd