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From: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
To: Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org
Cc: paulus@ozlabs.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:47:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1516110433.10494.5.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180115063235.7518-1-sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 17:32 +1100, Suraj Jitindar Singh wrote:
> The following patch series adds 3 new tristate capabilities and their
> associated handling.
> 
> A new H-Call is implemented which a guest will use to query the
> requirement for and availability of workarounds for certain cpu
> behaviours.
> 
> Applies on top of David's tree: ppc-for-2.12
> 
> The first patch from the previous revision has already been merged:
> hw/ppc/spapr_caps: Rework spapr_caps to use uint8 internal representation
> 
> The main changes to V3 are:
> - Split up the addition of the tristate caps into 5 patches
>   - 1/6 query the caps from the hypervisor and parse the new return format
>   - 2/6 add support for the new caps
>   - 3-5/6 add each of the three new caps
> - Patch 6/6 Unchanged

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like there's no way
to figure out through QMP whether these new machine options can be
used for a given QEMU binary.

If so, that's very unfortunate because it means that libvirt has
only two options: 1) just use them if the user requests the
corresponding feature, which will lead to older QEMU binaries
simply refusing to start; or 2) perform a version number check,
which will not be accurate if downstream backports are involved.

Would this information be added to the MachineInfo struct, so that
query-machines reports it? Or would a new QMP command be more
appropriate for the task?

Alternatively, if there's any witness we can use instead of an
explicit capability, let me know. But I still think we should
think about a better long-term solution, especially because this
seems to be happening quite frequently lately: see the hpt-resizing
and max-cpu-compat machine properties, which are just as opaque
from an introspection point of view.

Sorry for not bringing this up earlier.

-- 
Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-16 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-15  6:32 [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 1/6] target/ppc/kvm: Add cap_ppc_safe_[cache/bounds_check/indirect_branch] Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-15  6:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V4 " Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:06     ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 2/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add support for tristate spapr_capabilities Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:07   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 3/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_cache Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:10   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 4/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_bounds_check Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 5/6] target/ppc/spapr_caps: Add new tristate cap safe_indirect_branch Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:11   ` David Gibson
2018-01-15  6:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 6/6] target/ppc/spapr: Add H-Call H_GET_CPU_CHARACTERISTICS Suraj Jitindar Singh
2018-01-18  5:20   ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  5:44     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18  5:53       ` David Gibson
2018-01-18  8:11         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-18 20:30           ` Eric Blake
2018-01-18 23:35             ` David Gibson
2018-01-18 23:33           ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 13:47 ` Andrea Bolognani [this message]
2018-01-16 13:54   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [QEMU-PPC] [PATCH V3 0/6] target/ppc: Rework spapr_caps David Gibson
2018-01-16 14:46     ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-16 22:34       ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 23:26         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-16 23:30           ` David Gibson
2018-01-16 23:46             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2018-01-17  1:15               ` David Gibson
2018-01-17  8:54           ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-18  4:27             ` David Gibson
2018-01-18 15:55               ` Andrea Bolognani
2018-01-19  2:22                 ` David Gibson
2018-01-19  3:59                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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