From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C355BC433EF for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2022 18:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45010 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nL7rk-0005Tr-N1 for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:20:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59634) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nL7q3-000450-Ox for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:18:39 -0500 Received: from kylie.crudebyte.com ([5.189.157.229]:43705) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nL7q1-0004DU-FW for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:18:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crudebyte.com; s=kylie; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:Subject:Cc:To:From: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=tIN6sVY7Oe/2m4UpbndtiJBshYKLYrmld2Ws16lj5c0=; b=kIOnlcEME0RdlU5coiFWMXya9X Mn+O0oF02BfL7zbD6+Kj7GMYMAfv4AYam+Py2eyRc/1p+R5UNhR/DUluLqQRTkyDukQf/s6sUZLOy FgQvCEQLbUHXN9BS/kNsi1x2P41D6L06TpoEFBD76IpbGPab+7xiUigWPrLiWbScKDVMOx8SG451/ h3k9xZ/vKWX9ZYR1iZM/IPNNSA2SDc6oYkx/mQrChADmIpp2qeAGU6Z0ipavRr48QxRA+ZhHaT6X6 bYSv3jjL76XiGJMHPoLgztoUTOZiq0K0uf7r0PtOPYl8J3LIXtSrZX7IAA90FpvkNs4bEhPvylObo ZkA8ly8vNUEHnoP6HiNPkA+QbM3NKoLQAP2+8QvY7onmdI0cQzphEaqJ9F3unU1RISXzRZ6OvLAwm 9dHq78izTQc7Hi2qHHi00l9gdrINgcm4FfNjFEXRBmIyTf08qfIPoFnv1CLdLr5vFc++Y8JFCcEt/ gnWwenVptMnwvVRDpjTECFVe0fEaoS+ymunLmB/DA8AzmAb/U4UvT7z4kPR3etDMt8ACwZVtWF8fu 1BwncGhSg5orwsPRRDAeHtrs0ry6b7hQfJ/jAhsNhOEhEb26YQfiyaJZYqJ4EskPJYVgoK8YKjA9B v/BbQZiC+XB+5WLGOEtfSR5/hX1hmY4hmxsiNaQEo=; From: Christian Schoenebeck To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Cc: Akihiko Odaki , Peter Maydell , Philippe =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mathieu=2DDaud=E9?= , Cameron Esfahani , Roman Bolshakov , Will Cohen Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 11/15] ui/cocoa: Add Services menu Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:18:33 +0100 Message-ID: <15522158.WG5ctWH4Vs@silver> In-Reply-To: References: <20220215080307.69550-1-f4bug@amsat.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.189.157.229; envelope-from=qemu_oss@crudebyte.com; helo=kylie.crudebyte.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Freitag, 18. Februar 2022 18:49:55 CET Akihiko Odaki wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 2:33 AM Peter Maydell = =20 wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 at 08:26, Philippe Mathieu-Daud=E9 via > >=20 > > wrote: > > > From: Akihiko Odaki > > >=20 > > > Services menu functionality of Cocoa is described at: > > > https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/e= xte > > > nsions/services/>=20 > > I tested this, and while it does create a Services menu, none of > > the items in it seem very relevant to QEMU (on my machine, there's > > Activity Monitor, Time Profile Active Application, and some other > > software-development related things). In fact, every app I looked > > at exposed the same list of things in the Services menu. So I'm > > not sure why this is even an application-specific menu that needs > > specific code to support, rather than something system-wide that > > Apple automatically adds to the UI where it wants it. > >=20 > > -- PMM >=20 > Actually I wanted to use those services from Xcode to debug QEMU. I > have no idea why Apple decided to do it this way, but an application > template from Xcode does the same although it uses an interface file > instead of Objective-C code. >=20 > Regards, > Akihiko Odaki Yes, that appearance of the "Services" menu is normal. I think the idea was= to=20 leave it completely to app developers how their app menus looks like exactl= y,=20 instead of Apple injecting something there without being asked. There are much bigger oddities in macOS's menu design than that IMO. Best regards, Christian Schoenebeck