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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kwolf@redhat.com,
	peter maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	mst@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com, mreitz@redhat.com,
	kraxel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] optimize Qemu RSS usage
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:29:22 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1564831478.2624143.1467116962342.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57726A20.4000808@kamp.de>

> Am 28.06.2016 um 13:37 schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
> > On 28/06/2016 11:01, Peter Lieven wrote:
> >> I recently found that Qemu is using several hundred megabytes of RSS
> >> memory
> >> more than older versions such as Qemu 2.2.0. So I started tracing
> >> memory allocation and found 2 major reasons for this.
> >>
> >> 1) We changed the qemu coroutine pool to have a per thread and a global
> >> release
> >>     pool. The choosen poolsize and the changed algorithm could lead to up
> >>     to
> >>     192 free coroutines with just a single iothread. Each of the
> >>     coroutines
> >>     in the pool each having 1MB of stack memory.
> > But the fix, as you correctly note, is to reduce the stack size.  It
> > would be nice to compile block-obj-y with -Wstack-usage=2048 too.
> 
> To reveal if there are any big stack allocations in the block layer?

Yes.  Most should be fixed by now, but a handful are probably still there.
(definitely one in vvfat.c).

> As it seems reducing to 64kB breaks live migration in some (non reproducible) cases.

Does it hit the guard page?

> >> 2) Between Qemu 2.2.0 and 2.3.0 RCU was introduced which lead to delayed
> >> freeing
> >>     of memory. This lead to higher heap allocations which could not
> >>     effectively
> >>     be returned to kernel (most likely due to fragmentation).
> > I agree that some of the exec.c allocations need some care, but I would
> > prefer to use a custom free list or lazy allocation instead of mmap.
> 
> This would only help if the elements from the free list would be allocated
> using mmap? The issue is that RCU delays the freeing so that the number of
> concurrent allocations is high and then a bunch is freed at once. If the memory
> was malloced it would still have caused trouble.

The free list should improve reuse and fragmentation.  I'll take a look at
lazy allocation of subpages, too.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-28 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-28  9:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] optimize Qemu RSS usage Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] coroutine-ucontext: mmap stack memory Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:02   ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-28 10:21     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] coroutine-ucontext: add a switch to monitor maximum stack size Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] coroutine-ucontext: reduce stack size to 64kB Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:57     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 11:17       ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:35         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 12:09           ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 14:20             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30  6:34               ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:13     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:26       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] coroutine: add a knob to disable the shared release pool Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:47     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] util: add a helper to mmap private anonymous memory Peter Lieven
2016-10-16  2:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-18 13:50     ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] exec: use mmap for subpages Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] qapi: use mmap for QmpInputVisitor Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:29   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28  9:39     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:10       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-06-28 10:17         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 10:21           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-06-28 14:10           ` Eric Blake
2016-06-28 11:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 14:14     ` Eric Blake
2016-06-30 14:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-07-04  9:02     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-04 11:18       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-07-04 11:36         ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-04 11:42         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] virtio: use mmap for VirtQueue Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] loader: use mmap for ROMs Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 11:26     ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-04  7:30     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] vmware_svga: use mmap for scratch pad Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] qom: use mmap for bigger Objects Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:08   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-06-28 10:10   ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-28 10:19     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:49     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-30 14:15       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] util: add a function to realloc mmapped memory Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] exec: use mmap for PhysPageMap->nodes Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 10:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 10:48     ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-11  9:31     ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-11  9:44       ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-11 10:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-12 14:34         ` Peter Lieven
2016-07-13 10:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-14 14:47             ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] vnc-tight: make the encoding palette static Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 11:18     ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28  9:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] vnc: use mmap for VncState Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/15] optimize Qemu RSS usage Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 12:14   ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 12:29     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-06-28 12:33       ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 12:56         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-28 12:56         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-28 14:43           ` Peter Lieven
2016-06-28 14:52             ` Peter Lieven
2016-10-12 21:18 ` Michael R. Hines
2016-10-18 10:47   ` Peter Lieven
2016-10-19 17:40     ` Michael R. Hines
2016-10-31 22:00     ` Michael R. Hines
2016-11-01 22:02       ` Michael R. Hines

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